.375 H&H Vs .338win VS. 9.3 X62?

SuperCub said:
I was leanin' pretty hard on that load, but extraction was easy and primer pockets were still tight. Either way, I still backed off to 2700fps and called it good.

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:cool: and X2 on Boomers comments. How are the accuracy results? I think you've already done so, but could you post a full picture of it? What sources of load data do you have for the caliber or where could one find it.
 
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philthygeezer said:
Well, hopefully people buy it in enough quantity to make the ammo cheaper, but until then I'll take the goodness of a tried and true high capacity low pressure belted and tapered round that feeds like butter.
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The NEW KING has been selling in huge numbers, far more than RUgers original projections...:)

Ammo is within $5 of H&H ammo, so not a real problem there. And with greater case capacity than the H&H, the pressures remain low but with the same performance.

And feeding? Well, the NEW KING does okay....;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO-cIVzdSpc
 
Holy krap man ,hope you don't have a mental flame-out trying to process all this free advice! Next thread, what caliber is designed for the eradication of feral morbidly rabid guinea pigs.
 
lyle1 said:
I did a little homework today and it looks like trying to find a Canadian made rifle barrel in 9.3 is out of the question. If I want to re-barrel one of my existing rifles, it looks like a .338 win mag or .375 H & H....
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I believe Bevan King makes a 9.3 barrel, and Bits of Pieces in Vancouvers sells Heym barrels in 9.3mm.

One other option is to build a .358 Norma - it offers good performance and ther are many options for bullets. From light pistol bullets for plinking all the way to 310gr heavyweights. Brass is easy to make from cheap, readily available .338 Win Mag. stuff.


And for the original question, I like all of the choices. The 9.3 has a tremendous amount of performance while burning relatively small amounts of powder. You can easily fit 5 rounds in a magazine and the relatively mild recoil means a lightweight rifle is still manageable.



BTW, I tried to find some .375 Ruger brass recently (and dies) and it wasn't an easy task. GH - only your father had some in stock. I should have called him first, but I tried to get it locally first. I called every local shop and got the same answer- no dies, no brass, I can get the dies, I don't know when I can get the brass. The only good thing that came out of the search was that I started doing business with your father.
 
1899 said:
One other option is to build a .358 Norma - it offers good performance and ther are many options for bullets. From light pistol bullets for plinking all the way to 310gr heavyweights. Brass is easy to make from cheap, readily available .338 Win Mag. stuff.
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That's the route I went except rather than having one built I lucked into a Husqvarna model 1951 from Why not? on this site. I also got a set of Redding dies and a selection of 250gr bullets from Ted.

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Prior to getting the rifle I was able to pick up seven boxes of Norma factory 250gr ammo from lefty 338-06 and a 'healthy' supply of Norma unprimmed brass from Henry Nierychlo plus some Barnes 225gr TSX.
 
1899 said:
I believe Bevan King makes a 9.3 barrel, and Bits of Pieces in Vancouvers sells Heym barrels in 9.3mm.

One other option is to build a .358 Norma - it offers good performance and ther are many options for bullets. From light pistol bullets for plinking all the way to 310gr heavyweights. Brass is easy to make from cheap, readily available .338 Win Mag. stuff.


And for the original question, I like all of the choices. The 9.3 has a tremendous amount of performance while burning relatively small amounts of powder. You can easily fit 5 rounds in a magazine and the relatively mild recoil means a lightweight rifle is still manageable.

BTW, I tried to find some .375 Ruger brass recently (and dies) and it wasn't an easy task. GH - only your father had some in stock. I should have called him first, but I tried to get it locally first. I called every local shop and got the same answer- no dies, no brass, I can get the dies, I don't know when I can get the brass. The only good thing that came out of the search was that I started doing business with your father.
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Did the local shops have any .358 Norma brass?:p

Reliable and Italian in Vancouver had factory ammo last time I was there, as did NTF in Prince George, Corlanes in Dawson and Backcountry in FSJ. Just like many cartridges, brass needs to be ordered. Even at Wholesale Sports they usually only have a limited brass selection- Like about 20 or 30 cartridges out of the hundreds available. So sometimes you need to make your own brass- that's what I did for my first 40 cases.:)

Dies are easy to get, there are no export issues with dies and they can be ordered direct from the USA in many cases. Any local store that can't get you dies doesn't care about your business.;)

That said, I have had no trouble whatsoever getting brass for the NEW KING. I just use the telephone. ;)
 
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Gatehouse said:
Did the local shops have any .358 Norma brass?:p

Reliable and Italian in Vancouver had factory ammo last time I was there, as did NTF in Prince George, Corlanes in Dawson and Backcountry in FSJ. Just like many cartridges, brass needs to be ordered. Even at Wholesale Sports they usually only have a limited brass selection- Like about 20 or 30 cartridges out of the hundreds available. So sometimes you need to make your own brass- that's what I did for my first 40 cases.:)

Dies are easy to get, there are no export issues with dies and they can be ordered direct from the USA in many cases. Any local store that can't get you dies doesn't care about your business.;)
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I didn't mention anything about factory ammo. I also said "I can get the dies" - the problem is getting brass. NOBODY I called had, or could tell me when they could get brass. NTF is the same as OSFS, which had 3 boxes, of which my friend picked up two.

How hard is it to get .375 Ruger brass? Well, about three months ago, when I was looking for it, I even checked at Midway USA - none in stock and backordered. I just checked Midway USA 1 minute ago - still not in stock and backordered. Ok, fine, let's just get some .375 Ruger basic, and form our own....oops...not in stock and backordered.

With respect to the .358 Norma - just about every shop has 7mm RM, .300 Win Mag or .338 Win Mag. - all of which can be used to make .358 Norma brass.
 
1899 said:
I didn't mention anything about factory ammo. I also said "I can get the dies" - the problem is getting brass. NOBODY I called had, or could tell me when they could get brass. NTF is the same as OSFS, which had 3 boxes, of which my friend picked up two.

How hard is it to get .375 Ruger brass? Well, about three months ago, when I was looking for it, I even checked at Midway USA - none in stock and backordered. I just checked Midway USA 1 minute ago - still not in stock and backordered. Ok, fine, let's just get some .375 Ruger basic, and form our own....oops...not in stock and backordered.

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As the NEW KING has proved to be so popular, I guess it's not surprising that there could be brass shortages from time time time. Still, it sounds as if you managed to find some just by using the telephone, same way I do it.:)

Although factory ammo does comes packed in brass. If you can get factory ammo, you can get brass. It might not be ideal for the handloader, but it's not as if an owner of a NEW KING will be without ammunition.:rockOn:

With respect to the .358 Norma - just about every shop has 7mm RM, .300 Win Mag or .338 Win Mag. - all of which can be used to make .358 Norma brass
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Yes, very true. I just think it's funny when someone says it's hard to find brass for one cartridge but suggests another that needs brass to be necked up or formed and has the wrong headstamp.:p

If necking up and down and the wrong headstamp is okay, you can always order some .416 RUger brass and neck it down. Midsouth has it in stock, but I doubt they will ship it to Canada. ;)
 
Johnn Peterson said:
:cool: and X2 on Boomers comments. How are the accuracy results? I think you've already done so, but could you post a full picture of it? What sources of load data do you have for the caliber or where could one find it.
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Accuracy got better at 2700fps as did the recoil. Most data came from Steve's Pages and Reloaders Nest. There used to be a site for the 416Taylor that had a lot of good info, but it seems to be gone now.

Pic as requested. :)

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