375 H&H vs 375 Ruger vs 9,3x62

elker said:
Yes, 9.3x62 will dispatch any animals in this continent. It is easy to reload, cheaper to reload. Unless you want to go to Africa, 9.3 is enough.
Mine have killed about ten bears, all in one shot, except the one with 286 tsx.
Of course 375 is more powerful. It eats more powder.
Anyone can name one hunting situation in North America where a 9.3 cannot do well?
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sharks with laser beams is the only thing I can think of ............
 
vviking said:
For me, at 64 years, it's all about the 9.3 being soo much lighter to carry.
M98 husqvarna @ 8.5lbs, vs BRNO .375 @ 11lbs.
I love them both, but the hills get steeper ........
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I've got a few years on you,;)but I know what you mean. My Winchester model 70 Super Express 375 H&H comes in at 10lbs 5oz. My 9.3x62, a Zastava with full wood, 9lbs 11oz and my custom 375 Chatfield Taylor, 9lbs 3oz. Oh well:), I'll packem' while I still can. I keep telling myself, if I really want to benefit from packing less in the field, I should lose weight. :redface: Not doing well there either.
 
vviking said:
For me, at 64 years, it's all about the 9.3 being soo much lighter to carry.
M98 husqvarna @ 8.5lbs, vs BRNO .375 @ 11lbs.
I love them both, but the hills get steeper ........
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MY NEW KING weighs 8.5 with scope and MCSWIRLY stock :)

The Brno 602 is pretty damn heavy. :)
 
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My 9.3X62 pre '64 Model 70 in Brown Precision stock weighs a tad under 8 pounds with four in the magazine.





This is a mere nine ounces of the package.




Boomer likes it, but it's not much fun to shoot with 320s. ;)

Ted
 
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My M70 Alaskan weighs just a bit over 8 pounds; walnut stock, Leupold 3 5-10 and all. With 235 CEB ESP Raptors at 3000 (load isn't even maxed out) it will match the trajectory of a .300 Win and most of the small magnums out to 500. On the other end it will take 380 grain Rhinos at around 2300 fps. Throw in the normal 270-300 grain bullets, and one would really have to Stfuggle to find a situation where the H&H isn't a first class choice.
 
Ardent said:
Society Of Misguided Adventurers, a dark and shadowy organization that operates in the dark corners of dark places, misguidedly. Current operations have extended from the North Coast of BC, to Australia, to the Maritimes. Once you get past the hazing it's not awful.
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Off the cuff and by way of deductive reasoning, one might have guessed; "Sour Old Men's Association..." ;)
 
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conor_90 said:
In what world can a 9.3x62 be hot rodded to .338 velocities with a 250 grain bullet?

All the data I've seen has the .338 going a few hundred fps faster even with 300 grainers.

Ardent did you not see any 9.3's in Namibia? I thought the former Germany colonies were its stronghold.
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I take it you haven't read any of my blogs yet...

I shot a very good black bear on Oct 1st/2015 using a 250 AB at 2714 fps/4088 ft-lbs (avg. at range). My Tikka T3 Lite (22.5" barrel) in 9.3 X 62 shoots that load consistently into 0.44". Range to bear was 85 yards, because of angle of bear impact was mid-chest, diagonally through bear pulverizing the heart with an exit in front of offside shoulder leaving a trail of blood for 20 yards that looked like it had been sprayed from a garden house!

That was one grain less than a maximum load using RL-17, which makes 2760 fps into MOA. The whole outfit, loaded and ready for action with a 3 - 9 X 40mm Elite weighs just 7.5 lbs! Check out the trajectory on that, and energy down range at 500 yards! It's a perfect moose load at that range with over 2000 ft-lbs.

Two years ago, I shot another 6-ft bear with a 286 NP at 2600+ fps at 68 yards. One and done!

In my latest blog I made this statement: "... that load puts it squarely in the same class as the .375 H&H." My point was to show that RL-17 gave me an increase of 170 fps over what I could reasonably get from RL-15 in shooting that 286 Nosler Partition, and into .75 moa.

The 9.3 will do anything a Ruger .375 will do with a 270gr and it's stubby 20" that gives a LOT more noise and recoil burning 16% more powder. Then, remember 300gr Swifts and 320gr Woodleighs are available for the 9.3, which in momentum will beat the .375 H&H and Ruger shooting 270s, especially in that short 20" Ruger. Canadians are still learning about the 9.3 X 62 and it's true capabilities in a modern rifle with the best modern powders, and at .338 Win Mag pressure. Don't forget that Tikka (Sako) makes the exact same rifle as mine in .338 Win Mag. Therefore, there is no reason NOT to load the 9.3 to the same psi as the .338.

Bob

www.bigbores.ca
 
9.3mauser said:
.375 H&H is still the legal minimum in a lot of places.
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which countries?

not Zimbabwe, Botswana (no more hunting for the big 5), Namibia not caliber but energy again not for lion and leopard, RSA (depending which states and laws used) so in fact only Tanzania for now and Zambia except for lion and leopard so buffalo Rhino and elephant

western Africa there is no such .375 as the minimun.

so not that much lot of places .... for the 375 only ...
 
As much as I liked my 9.3s and used them a lot they still won't reach and hit like a 375 be it H&H or Ruger.
When the 375 Ruger is loaded with the 250 Barnes TTSX it is a powerhouse and will easily out-run the 9.3 loaded with a 250 anything.
And that's all I'm going to say on the matter...
 
Dogleg said:
My M70 Alaskan weighs just a bit over 8 pounds; walnut stock, Leupold 3 5-10 and all. With 235 CEB ESP Raptors at 3000 (load isn't even maxed out) it will match the trajectory of a .300 Win and most of the small magnums out to 500. On the other end it will take 380 grain Rhinos at around 2300 fps. Throw in the normal 270-300 grain bullets, and one would really have to Stfuggle to find a situation where the H&H isn't a first class choice.
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Held it myself, beautiful rifle. Given they're built on a standard action they don't weigh more than anything else, I had a stainless / synthetic Model 70 .375 that weighed what my .30-06 does.

A lot of the arguments against a .375 H&H come from unfamiliarity, as it does fit in a standard action, it doesn't necessarily weigh any more than anything else, and it really doesn't even recoil badly. For a do it all rifle, which the medium bore is, I see it as the most do it all of the bunch when ammo availability, recoil, rifle selection, trajectory etc are considered.
 
Don't forget that Tikka (Sako) makes the exact same rifle as mine in .338 Win Mag
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How could I forget? I own the rifle and it has quickly become my favorite.

On paper or otherwise the two rounds are pretty similar. I am more interested in WhyNot?'s heavy for caliber loads than any attempts to compete with the speed of the .338 WM though...
 
elker said:
Yes, 9.3x62 will dispatch any animals in this continent. It is easy to reload, cheaper to reload. Unless you want to go to Africa, 9.3 is enough.
Mine have killed about ten bears, all in one shot, except the one with 286 tsx.
Of course 375 is more powerful. It eats more powder.
Anyone can name one hunting situation in North America where a 9.3 cannot do well?
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Wouldn't be my first choice for pronghorn or mountain goat but with the 250 AB it would do fine.
 
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