.375 Holland and Holland, the most versatile big game hunting cartridge?

Love the .375H&H, but if one includes general range target shooting and practice, a .308 or .30-06 is much more versatile with respect to plinking and target ammunition. If one considers reloading with Trail Boss and .30-30 bullets or 110 grain spitzers, then the .308 or .30-06 are likely more versatile for small game too. 130 TTSX will supplant a .270 with mild recoil for the plains, and a 200 grain partition will work on heavy stuff in the timber.

I think of a 7 pound scoped .30-06 as probably the most versatile north American centrefire rifle, and the .375 H&H as being more suitable for heavier duties, not that the .375 isn't versatile in its own right, and it is a pile of fun. If you have .308/.30-06 and a .375, you probably wouldn't need much else in a centrefire rifle. .338 WMs are nice too though. :)
 
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philthygeezer said:
Love the .375H&H, but if one includes general range target shooting and practice, a .308 or .30-06 is much more versatile with respect to plinking and target ammunition. If one considers reloading with Trail Boss and .30-30 bullets or 110 grain spitzers, then the .308 or .30-06 are likely more versatile for small game too. 130 TTSX will supplant a .270 with mild recoil for the plains, and a 200 grain partition will work on heavy stuff in the timber.

I think of a 7 pound scoped .30-06 as probably the most versatile north American centrefire rifle, and the .375 H&H as being more suitable for heavier duties, not that the .375 isn't versatile in its own right, and it is a pile of fun. If you have .308/.30-06 and a .375, you probably wouldn't need much else in a centrefire rifle. .338 WMs are nice too though. :)
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Yup already own the .308, 30.06 and a few others on top of the .375....but im always on the hunt for the next greatest cartridge to add to the collection.

I'm thinking I need something to fill in my long range hunting niche.
 
I’ve shot hundreds of Hornady 225grn spire points loaded around 2900fps with imr 4064. Used to be a dirt cheap cup and core bullet but I think they may be discontinued, great bullet for knocking mullies out of a bounce. I’ve had good luck with hornady 250grn gmx loaded with varget and good old nosler 300grn partitions over h4895 are extremely accurate out of both my Remmy 700 classic and my CZ safari classic. Albeit the Slender Remington definitely hits back a little harder with the heavies.
 
fridge450 said:
I’ve shot hundreds of Hornady 225grn spire points loaded around 2900fps with imr 4064. Used to be a dirt cheap cup and core bullet but I think they may be discontinued,
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definitely gone, sadly. The 375 h&h would be a lot more versatile here in Canada if we could get that hornady 225 gr back. I use lower weight bullets (norma vulkan 232 gr and oryx 232 gr) in the 9.3x62, which I always grab over the 375, with great success. Sadly the price has gone crazy on those bullets as well and I'm not aware of other lighter projectiles.

OP, how do you like your new CZ ?
 
Northern Shooter said:
.375 Holland and Holland, the most versatile big game hunting cartridge?
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I submit that the 300 Holland and Holland is a more versatile big game hunting cartridge in Canada.

Think of it as a +P 30-06. That's never a bad place to be here. :)

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doctor_meltdown said:
definitely gone, sadly. The 375 h&h would be a lot more versatile here in Canada if we could get that hornady 225 gr back. I use lower weight bullets (norma vulkan 232 gr and oryx 232 gr) in the 9.3x62, which I always grab over the 375, with great success. Sadly the price has gone crazy on those bullets as well and I'm not aware of other lighter projectiles.

OP, how do you like your new CZ ?
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Speer 235 is still around for the 375 as far as I know. It will do a good job of making a 300 mag out of a 375 at most hunting distances.
 
doctor_meltdown said:
definitely gone, sadly. The 375 h&h would be a lot more versatile here in Canada if we could get that hornady 225 gr back. I use lower weight bullets (norma vulkan 232 gr and oryx 232 gr) in the 9.3x62, which I always grab over the 375, with great success. Sadly the price has gone crazy on those bullets as well and I'm not aware of other lighter projectiles.

OP, how do you like your new CZ ?
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in the 9.3x62 woodleigh makes a 232 grains as well. if ever needed i think i have 97 bullets of 232 grains oryx for the 9.3s.
 
I went through an evolution with the H&H. Started here at home, with the one rifle for the world thinking. Ended up hunting much of what BC offers with it, taking it to Hawaii, Africa several times, then I started carrying it for a living on the coast in BC hunting Grizzlies outfitting. Never made it to Australia.

Over the course of that, I started at 270 and 300 grain premium monos hand loaded. Then I got busy and perhaps tired of hand loading and bought Federal blue box 270 cheap soft points. No discernible difference in performance from the premium monos, shot placement appeared to be all that mattered.

Throughout this time I started down loading the .375 as I realised I didn’t need to full house loads for 95% of what I was doing, and for everything on this continent. I had a .505 and .450 available if I wanted to eat ####. Effects deteriorated as I slowed the round down below 2400fps, so I adopted lighter bullets, 260gr and under to keep the milder recoil and the speed.

Now that I had a .375 H&H loaded with 200-260gr bullets at mid velocities doing .30-06 jobs, I sold my last .375s realising I needed a .30-06. Got by with a 7x57 and other moderate rounds. Just this season Hoyt got the last of my .375 H&H stuff. In the end I fell in love with the .375 H&H, and drifted away from it over fifteen years. I still love the cartridge, I just find I don’t need one. It certainly works however and was my preferred round for backing Grizzly clients, but that era’s over in my life, and for now so is the H&H.
 
Ardent said:
I went through an evolution with the H&H. Started here at home, with the one rifle for the world thinking. Ended up hunting much of what BC offers with it, taking it to Hawaii, Africa several times, then I started carrying it for a living on the coast in BC hunting Grizzlies outfitting. Never made it to Australia.

Over the course of that, I started at 270 and 300 grain premium monos hand loaded. Then I got busy and perhaps tired of hand loading and bought Federal blue box 270 cheap soft points. No discernible difference in performance from the premium monos, shot placement appeared to be all that mattered.

Throughout this time I started down loading the .375 as I realised I didn’t need to full house loads for 95% of what I was doing, and for everything on this continent. I had a .505 and .450 available if I wanted to eat ####. Effects deteriorated as I slowed the round down below 2400fps, so I adopted lighter bullets, 260gr and under to keep the milder recoil and the speed.

Now that I had a .375 H&H loaded with 200-260gr bullets at mid velocities doing .30-06 jobs, I sold my last .375s realising I needed a .30-06. Got by with a 7x57 and other moderate rounds. Just this season Hoyt got the last of my .375 H&H stuff. In the end I fell in love with the .375 H&H, and drifted away from it over fifteen years. I still love the cartridge, I just find I don’t need one. It certainly works however and was my preferred round for backing Grizzly clients, but that era’s over in my life, and for now so is the H&H.
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kevin robertson is the one favouring speed reduction but for heavier bullet and that is for the .375 and 9.3s. im pretty sure you will come back on it in a way or another.
 
Perhaps! The recoil isn’t the principle limiting factor in my mind, it’s the weight of the rifles I don’t appreciate these days for BC style and walk and spot hunting on rough terrain.

Suppose that is a recoil thing in a round about way, as one can build a 6 1/2lb H&H. Just few are sadistic enough to want to shoot it. I find I like rifles under 7lbs all up and use them more, that has made me a .257R / .30-30 / 7x57 / .270 / .308 sorta fellow. I’ve got a real soft spot for 7RM from watching it work guiding, too, and can put up with it in a light rifle. But I digress.

On pure capability, and for stopping bears here at home, hard to argue with an H&H. I just find it an awkward fit for my pursuits these days.
 
Ammo being expensive in Brandon and Justinflation, consider handloading. Ive owned a couple of H&H, used the 235 Speer and 260 partition. The 235 Speer is going to be really close to 30-06 ballistics. Except with a great deal more authority.

My current 375 is the 375 rum, for which I use the 260 partition at 3050 ft/sec, what's not to like about 270 velocity with twice the bullet weight. I've been selling most of my other 375 bullets, 1951 technology and still the one measured against.
 
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