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jjohnwm said:
All joking aside, I don't really see the significance of those compiled lists. I will say that the .375Ruger list contains a lot of guns that I would never wish to own, or to recommend to someone else. Inexpensive is good...but cheap is bad.

So, in case it isn't obvious, I will cast my vote for the H&H. Now that Weatherby is introducing the Vanguard in that chambering, it will be possible to own this wonderful cartridge in a relatively inexpensive rifle that is still of excellent quality. Thus, the single selling point of the Ruger cartridge...the undeniable fact that it can be fitted into a shorter and less expensive gun...goes away. You can now own an H&H-chambered rifle at virtually any price point that suits you, without sacrificing quality. The perfect answer to the OP's original question.

Best of all, this relieves us from the horror of reading a report on "The Mossberg Patriot on Safari".
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Yes the list is not necessary pretty, but since I purchased one of those "undesirable" rifles you mention and it shoots like below. I will gladly take it over the 375 h&h any day of the week and will continue to do so since I would rather have a gun that shoots like this then a pretty one.

 
hillbros_96 said:
Yes the list is not necessary pretty, but since I purchased one of those "undesirable" rifles you mention and it shoots like below. I will gladly take it over the 375 h&h any day of the week and will continue to do so since I would rather have a gun that shoots like this then a pretty one.

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Are you using the same strategy as Cooper where you don't post the distance and hope everyone just assumes it's 100 yards? ;)
 
hillbros_96 said:
Yes the list is not necessary pretty, but since I purchased one of those "undesirable" rifles you mention and it shoots like below. I will gladly take it over the 375 h&h any day of the week and will continue to do so since I would rather have a gun that shoots like this then a pretty one.

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Nice shooting! :)
 
hillbros_96 said:
Yes the list is not necessary pretty, but since I purchased one of those "undesirable" rifles you mention and it shoots like below. I will gladly take it over the 375 h&h any day of the week and will continue to do so since I would rather have a gun that shoots like this then a pretty one.

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Why do you choose it over the H&H though? My H&H shoots like yours on my good days too. Nice shooting, its great when a load comes together like that.
 
Excellent shooting...

Thats the beauty of the 375 cal bullets they are crazy accurate any case design can produce accuracy like this if you can do your part.
 
sgt.rock said:
I know I got 5000 ft/lb of energy on tap... No worse than a shotgun even with a stiff load of 300 gr X bullets over a max dose of RL15
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You'll not get 2740 fps from a 300 TSX in a 20" Alaskan Ruger! To make 5000 ft-lbs, that's what must happen. Not doable! Barnes used a 24-inch barrel and the most they show in their manual #4 is 2642 fps (4649 ft-lbs). From a 20-inch count on about 2600 fps/4503 ft-lbs from that overly long 300 TSX. Plus, it has a VERY poor BC (ballistic coefficient) so will lose speed rather quickly down range at, say, 300 yards.


Bob

www.bigbores.ca
 
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sharp shooter said:
Why do you choose it over the H&H though? My H&H shoots like yours on my good days too. Nice shooting, its great when a load comes together like that.
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Truthfully because I am a innovator and not satisfied with the status quo. I am always looking for a a better mouse trap. I even have a 17 wsm in a b-mag that everyone seems to hate because they cannot get 1 moa out of a rimfire at 100 yrds. I can hit gophers all day long at 150 yrs with mine so my expectations are met as long as I do my part. I did not expect sub MOA out of my $400 savage in 375 ruger but now it puts me in a conundrum. I want to up grade it but why take the chance when it shoots so well? The bloody gun has been sub moa since the day I have brought it home and with most loads I have tried in it. Realistically either one will do the job as long as the expectations of the gun and cartridge are realistic.
 
375 cal is quite accurate.

I was playing last weekend with my 375 Ruger Alaskan. This is the 100yrd group. (yes thats 3 shots)
hung in under 1 MOA at 200 and 300yrds. opened up to 6" group at 400yrds.



now i have posted this here and other places. I have checked it 3 times now.
100yrds - 2.5" high
200yrds - 1.25" high
300yrds - 8" low
400yrds - 23" low

Pretty flat for a 300g bullet out a 20"tube

people dont belive me but holes in paper dont lie
 
More than accurate enough to drop a moose at 400 yards if you do your part! :)

Good shooting, guys. I've shot my Alaskan out to about 480 yards which is the furthest out range allows. Once you know your drops its easy to make good hits! :)
 
RogerR said:
Well, well well. I must say it has been an interesting read...all 14 pages of it! To those that have tried to help I very much appreciate your opinions. I will re-read all this and do some investigation. Here in the Lower Mainland, ammo is not in terribly short supply but as we all know it can be hellishly expensive. Getting back to my original post, I am concerned about ammo availability in Namibia or South Africa. I sure don't want to put myself at the mercy of an ammo supply situation in Africa, though, realistically, how many rounds does one actually take on a deer safari? 20? 30?
I feel my instincts leaning back towards the .375 H&H in Sako rifle on the basis of versatility and availability...and given that it can be reloaded, makes it even more attractive.
Does anyone know of the ammo supply situation in the safari industry in Africa?
Thanks again to all.
Roger
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The Sako is a fine rifle, and you should be happy with it.

If getting a H&H for ammo in Africa makes you more comfortable, that's the route you should take, however it's not a criteria I feel is important, for several reasons.

You will shoot the rifle more at home than Africa. Losing your ammo is a possibility, but many hunters take far more exotic and rare cartridges than the 375 Ruger. I converse with quite a few hunters from various parts of Africa and they tell me many gun shops are now stocking .375 Ruger ammo, especially in Johnnesburg, Pretoria, and Cape Town and Windhoek. I posted a list of some of these shops somewhere in this forum....

Finally, if the worst happens and your ammo or rifle disappear and you can't get to a gun shop, you will still go hunting, just not using your own rifle.

That's just my thinking- you should do what makes you feel good. I'm no Africa expert, never been there ;)
 
If you happen to have five digits in your pockets (no, not one of your hands you jackasses) then you owe it to yourself to look at the Heym Express. Possibly the most beautiful turnbolt on the face of the planet.
 
RogerR said:
Here in the Lower Mainland, ammo is not in terribly short supply but as we all know it can be hellishly expensive.

Getting back to my original post, I am concerned about ammo availability in Namibia or South Africa. I sure don't want to put myself at the mercy of an ammo supply situation in Africa, though, realistically, how many rounds does one actually take on a deer safari? 20? 30?

I feel my instincts leaning back towards the .375 H&H in Sako rifle on the basis of versatility and availability...and given that it can be reloaded, makes it even more attractive.

Does anyone know of the ammo supply situation in the safari industry in Africa?

Thanks again to all.
Roger
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The fact of the matter is nearly everyone who owns a medium bore rifle in SA and Namibia will either own a 375 H&H or 9.3x62, the local ammo prouducer - PMP (Pretoria metal pressing) makes ammo for both calibres and you will find it everywhere including little towns. I know this because I'm from there - and return every year for family and business reasons - I don't have to regurgitate some nonsense I read on the Internet

The 375 Ruger is not at all popular out there, and probably will never be popular either (simply because it was made on the wrong continent) - yanky cartridges are not popular in SA or Namibia, just look at the Weatherby stable as a prime example of an African flop, and the fugly Buger will go the same way!

So if Africa is on your agenda - (might as well make that BC as well) go with true royalty - buy the H&H and never regret your choice...
 
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Here's the list I mentioned. And some pics!

City Guns in Cape Town, Wildman Cape, Safari & Outdoor Stellenbosch and I am sure plenty others too
KOMANI GUN CELLAR,QUEENSTOWN
Hotshot Arms & Ammo in Walvis Bay, Namibia
VLT, Safari & Outdoor and Zimbi Books in PRetoria as well
Camdix Krugersdorp. Savuti Arms Brakpan ,Hi Tech Benoni. Most dealers stock ammo for. 375 Ruger

Just about all of them by now.... Include just about every Agriculyural Co-op in every town too.

About 90% of gunshops in RSA stock for 375ruger. To add a few. Blou Meul Alberton. M&H arms Klerksdorp. Frontier Klerksdorp.





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internet cartridge?
What dose that even mean.

Don't remember logging in to anything as it filled my chest freezer.
 
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Gatehouse said:
Here's the list I mentioned. And some pics!

City Guns in Cape Town, Wildman Cape, Safari & Outdoor Stellenbosch and I am sure plenty others too
KOMANI GUN CELLAR,QUEENSTOWN
Hotshot Arms & Ammo in Walvis Bay, Namibia
VLT, Safari & Outdoor and Zimbi Books in PRetoria as well
Camdix Krugersdorp. Savuti Arms Brakpan ,Hi Tech Benoni. Most dealers stock ammo for. 375 Ruger

Just about all of them by now.... Include just about every Agriculyural Co-op in every town too.

About 90% of gunshops in RSA stock for 375ruger. To add a few. Blou Meul Alberton. M&H arms Klerksdorp. Frontier
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Oh My - seems like you are a real expert on South Africa, it's gunshops, stocking points and game now!

This sentence speaks volumes -
Just about all of them by now.... Include just about every Agriculyural Co-op in every town too.
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.... You must have done extensive travel to know that!

So, are you going to post up some pics of yourself, your Fugly little Buger, and the all them African trophies you knocked over with it, for our viewing pleasure? I love looking at pics of Foreigners enjoying the country, and spending loads of cash there!

Just saying.........!
 
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34 he means its just a copy of something that works the same as what was copied. :rolleyes:

Kudo just read your sigline had to laugh.

Here is my take when I ask for advise I'm not asking for someone to tell me what to do I'm asking for their thoughts I'll make up my own mind what is the best for me.

In this case it isn't a Ruger or an H&H its a RUM... :cool:
 
Kudu said:
Oh My - seems like you are a real expert on South Africa, it's gunshops, stocking points and game now!

This sentence speaks volumes - .... You must have done extensive travel to know that!

So, are you going to post up some pics of yourself, your Fugly little Buger, and the all them African trophies you knocked over with it, for our viewing pleasure? I love looking at pics of Foreigners enjoying the country, and spending loads of cash there!

Just saying.........!
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Those are all quotes from RSA resident hunters.
 
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