I've shot some of the other hornady high energy stuff over a chrono - with 23-24 inch barrels it was pretty close to advertized. Even 22 inches did ok - go below that and there's little to no benefit tho. It really needs a longer barrel to get the benefit from.
375 Ruger - anyone heard anything about this?
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I've shot some of the other hornady high energy stuff over a chrono - with 23-24 inch barrels it was pretty close to advertized. Even 22 inches did ok - go below that and there's little to no benefit tho. It really needs a longer barrel to get the benefit from.
Foxer said:
Let's say that the Hornady HE performs as advertised-
Accoring tot he manuals, you can't get to 2705 on your own.
According to the other major manufacturers of ammo, you can't get to 2705
And you are stuck using the Hornady 300gr bullet. What if that doesn't shot in your rifle?
The highest velocity most handloaders get wiht 375H&H and 300gr bullets is abotu 2550-2600fps in 24" barrels.
Te 375 Ruger beats that by a bit in a shorter barrel.
None of this velocit stuff matters much in th ereal world, but the H&H case can mean that you have shorter brass life.
If I was only using factory ammo, i'd robably go H&H, but for a reloader, case life is simewhat important.
Do you honestly get short brass life with the .375 Holland & Holland? Shorter than the .303 British, which in a Lee-Enfield is good for at least 3-4 reloads?
How much general purpose shooting would one do with such a rifle, anyway? Apart from some zeroing and position practice on the range to get familiar with the rifle and load, how much actual shooting would the average hunter/gun nut with a number of different hunting rifles do with a .375? More than 200 rounds per year? I doubt it.
How many years would 100 .375 H & H cases last under those conditions before they had to be thrown away?
Personally, I'm all in favour of new cartridges, just for the fun of it, if nothing else. But I don't buy into these kinds of artificial distinctions which supposedly make the newer cartridge superior.
How much general purpose shooting would one do with such a rifle, anyway? Apart from some zeroing and position practice on the range to get familiar with the rifle and load, how much actual shooting would the average hunter/gun nut with a number of different hunting rifles do with a .375? More than 200 rounds per year? I doubt it.
How many years would 100 .375 H & H cases last under those conditions before they had to be thrown away?
Personally, I'm all in favour of new cartridges, just for the fun of it, if nothing else. But I don't buy into these kinds of artificial distinctions which supposedly make the newer cartridge superior.
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The sloping, small shoulered H&H case will give you shorter life in some rifles, just like the 303 brass. I saw more stretcign wiht one H&H thtat I loaded for than another,but they both stretched somewhat.
Some lasted 3 loadings, some 5. I coul;d have used othes for lower pressure loads, maybe.
100 cases should last you awhile, but yeah, I'll shoot well over 200 rounds in a year. Why not?
The 375 H&H isn't a bad cartridge by any means, I like it alot, but the 375 Ruger appears to have slightly more velocity, and a case that won't stretch as much, so it may work better for some people.
Some lasted 3 loadings, some 5. I coul;d have used othes for lower pressure loads, maybe.
100 cases should last you awhile, but yeah, I'll shoot well over 200 rounds in a year. Why not?
The 375 H&H isn't a bad cartridge by any means, I like it alot, but the 375 Ruger appears to have slightly more velocity, and a case that won't stretch as much, so it may work better for some people.
This .375 Ruger performance sounds optimistic to me. I was thinking the same thing as Mystic Player - that this is not much different than a .375 Dakota, a cartridge that I have always found interesting.
The Dakota's case capacity is 98gr - and it does 2600fps with a 300 grain bullet. Looking at the specs, I can't see how the Ruger version would do 60fps+ better in a 20" barrel.
The Dakota's case capacity is 98gr - and it does 2600fps with a 300 grain bullet. Looking at the specs, I can't see how the Ruger version would do 60fps+ better in a 20" barrel.
I'm tempted t go along wiht that.not much different than the Dakota.
The differerece is *major* factory rifles chambered in it.
Tootall- sure! I woudl liek to know WHEN the rifles are available, and WHEN brass is available!
The differerece is *major* factory rifles chambered in it.
Tootall- sure! I woudl liek to know WHEN the rifles are available, and WHEN brass is available!
Gatehouse and Salty,
I am an avid cartridge collector, so I will be all over these two new rounds. I will find out info for you and post it for you.
EDIT the two new rounds, and several "new-old" rounds are being introduced by Hornady.
http://www.hornady.com/
I am an avid cartridge collector, so I will be all over these two new rounds. I will find out info for you and post it for you.
EDIT the two new rounds, and several "new-old" rounds are being introduced by Hornady.
http://www.hornady.com/
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The #1 in 9.3x74R was already catalogued, not sure about the 450/400 though. - dan
Salty said:
I just read an article on the 308 Marlin Express. It mentioned that it is a special loading, using compressed charges. I am going to ask what the average relaoder can expect to get out of it.
Salty, would you still be interested if you could reload it, but at reduced performance?
