YYAWNNNN....................denial, denial, denial, as Shakespeare said "Me thinks he doth protest too much"
375 Ruger Factory ammo
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YYAWNNNN....................denial, denial, denial, as Shakespeare said "Me thinks he doth protest too much"
bearkilr
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I'm thinking the rifle style has more to do with sales than the caliber. An Alaskan chambered in 375 H&H would have definitely matched sales figures of the 375 Ruger, and probably exceeded them.
Possibly, but you wouldn't have fit an H&H into that action without having modifications done...Which would increase production costs.Which would have increased retail prices.Which would have had a negative impact on sales.
Cleo, what is it exactly that you are uncomfortable with in the factory offerings, is it lack of variety or the fact you can only get Hornady projectiles? FWIW I've found the factory loadings shoot quite well. They were both also very accurate in my .375 African. I've never used the .375 factory offerings on game (two elk so far with Nosler ABs) but the Hornady 30 cal and 35 cal Interlocks I've used have never failed to perform for me. If you happen to find a M77 for a smokin' deal I wouldn't let bullet choice slow you down. I love mine. Just my 2 cents.
Three reasons, the first two of which are pretty silly...
1 - I'm a remington guy who uses federal ammo with Nosler bullets almost exclusively, and have done so for the last 15+ years. Not that I'm resistant to change, but I do like being 100% familiar and comfortable with what I'm using.
2 - very little experience with the Hornady stuff - just don't know about it, and havn't built up any confidence in it. Are the interbonds as good as the accubonds? I have to admit I tried them in my 270 once and they did shoot nicely at paper anyways.. I'll have to look up moreinfo on the interbond and interlocks...
3 - Here's the only real reason.. I'm a bit of an accuracy nut, and I've had bad luck over the years finding the load my rifle likes the best. So since there's only 3 loads available, I'm nervous that all three might be duds and then what??? Of course, the 375 isn't exactly going to be a long range rig, and also might push me towrds reloading - just don't really have the time...
Cheers,
Cleo
1 - I'm a remington guy who uses federal ammo with Nosler bullets almost exclusively, and have done so for the last 15+ years. Not that I'm resistant to change, but I do like being 100% familiar and comfortable with what I'm using.
2 - very little experience with the Hornady stuff - just don't know about it, and havn't built up any confidence in it. Are the interbonds as good as the accubonds? I have to admit I tried them in my 270 once and they did shoot nicely at paper anyways.. I'll have to look up moreinfo on the interbond and interlocks...
3 - Here's the only real reason.. I'm a bit of an accuracy nut, and I've had bad luck over the years finding the load my rifle likes the best. So since there's only 3 loads available, I'm nervous that all three might be duds and then what??? Of course, the 375 isn't exactly going to be a long range rig, and also might push me towrds reloading - just don't really have the time...
Cheers,
Cleo
Heres an 11 shot group at 250 ish yards 270gr factory hornaby loads outta my 375 Ruger African I was just fine tuning my scope for Bear.
2 - very little experience with the Hornady stuff - just don't know about it, and havn't built up any confidence in it. Are the interbonds as good as the accubonds? I have to admit I tried them in my 270 once and they did shoot nicely at paper anyways.. I'll have to look up moreinfo on the interbond and interlocks...
3 - Here's the only real reason.. I'm a bit of an accuracy nut, and I've had bad luck over the years finding the load my rifle likes the best. So since there's only 3 loads available, I'm nervous that all three might be duds and then what??? Of course, the 375 isn't exactly going to be a long range rig, and also might push me towrds reloading - just don't really have the time...
Cheers,
Cleo
Heres an 11 shot group at 250 ish yards 270gr factory hornaby loads outta my 375 Ruger African I was just fine tuning my scope for Bear.
Though I always liked the idea of the 375 H&H I would buy a 375 Ruger over it now, the archaic belted magnum case is a thing of the past and the Ruger is a step in the right direction in the evolution of magnum rifle cartridges. Being a handloader factory ammunition availability means nothing to me. I bought a 338 RUM Sendero when they first came out; I'm not worried about ammunition for that "obsolete" cartridge or if I get the 375 Ruger and in the future Gatehouse is wrong.
Anything I have read lately says that the Hornady factory 375 Ruger ammunition is very accurate, not a bad thing for those relying in factory ammo.
Even Craig Boddington can admit to the Ruger's superiority:
Anything I have read lately says that the Hornady factory 375 Ruger ammunition is very accurate, not a bad thing for those relying in factory ammo.
Even Craig Boddington can admit to the Ruger's superiority:
Heres an 11 shot group at 250 ish yards 270gr factory hornaby loads outta my 375 Ruger African I was just fine tuning my scope for Bear.
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Interesting - pretty good. What scope do you have on it? I always envisioned a smaller power scope like a 1.5-5x20 for bear, but the ability to shoot further would be nice - and the 375's certainly seem capable out further on the larger ungulates such as elk or moose...
Interesting - pretty good. What scope do you have on it? I always envisioned a smaller power scope like a 1.5-5x20 for bear, but the ability to shoot further would be nice - and the 375's certainly seem capable out further on the larger ungulates such as elk or moose...
Heres an 11 shot group at 250 ish yards 270gr factory hornaby loads outta my 375 Ruger African I was just fine tuning my scope for Bear.
Interesting - pretty good. What scope do you have on it? I always envisioned a smaller power scope like a 1.5-5x20 for bear, but the ability to shoot further would be nice - and the 375's certainly seem capable out further on the larger ungulates such as elk or moose...[/QUOTE]
Thats with a Leupold VX I 3-9x40
As far as Interbond vs. Accubond I haven't shot a huge number of animals with either bullet but both have performed well. Below are pictures of a 180 gr. 30 cal Hornady Interbond and a 260 gr. 375 cal Accubond. The Interbond blasted through a rib and went through the boiler room of a mule deer from about 90 yds. Ended up against the hide on the opposite side. It weighs in at 164.4 gr. retaining about 91% of its original weight. The Accubond ran the length of an elks neck coming to rest against the spine near the skull. It was shot from 350 yds. and weighs 207.8 gr. retaining about 80%. The factory 270 gr. 375 Ruger round is an Interlock, not the Interbond. I don't have any recovered Interlocks but everything I have shot with them has dropped dead as well.
If you're not reloading I can see your concern regarding the last point. I haven't heard any complaints about the accuracy of the .375 R, but I think most of the folks using it are reloading. My particular rifle shoots both the factory 270 and 300 loads quite well. Hopefully this may have helped some, best of luck with finding the rifle you want.
If you are around the lower mainland you are welcome to try my African as long as the bolt being on the "other" side doesn't bother you
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.375 Ruger all the way, like Boddington say's it's the better cartridge. The H&H has lived a long life, and is on it's death bed, lol. Must be hard for the elite to see Ruger doing so well with it's powerhouse cartridge... Love my Alaskan, 20" barrel, nice and handy and packs a wallop! Great rifle, great cartridge, thanks Ruger.
I can't say that I've ever been a huge fan of Boddington's writing style.
That's not to say that he doesn't have knowledge, it's just his style I don't like much. He has done more hunting in more places than most has shot far more animals with far more different rifles than most. He's been there and done that, and in this case, he is bang on. It's a better cartridge.
I'd actually qualify that a little bit and say it's a better cartridge for the world we live in now. If it was 100 years ago, I'd probably be pretty enamored of the design of the H&H case, that helped extraction when pressures got a bit high in hot temperatures using inconsistent powder. Nowadays, there is no reason to use the antiquated design of the H&H- We've got all sorts of bottle neck cartridges with straight sides that feed and extract flawlessly.
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