375 Ruger here to stay?

This was a fun, entertaining thread...but this crack is tasteless and low-class in the extreme.

I thought it was more than a little out of line myself, but wasn't going to acknowledge it...............Doesn't really have a place in a cartridge debate thread, you're right. I thought better of Gatehouses debating abilities...........

This will be my last post here as the last remark was just a little too personal, and in very poor taste! Call it a win if you like Gatehouse..........
 
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There are half a dozen rifle makers offering the 375 Ruger, plus custom shops. We've had the list here a couple of times! :)

RCBS offers 375 Ruger dies, guaranteed.
 
This was a fun, entertaining thread...but this crack is tasteless and low-class in the extreme.

If he didn't want to discuss the topic, he should have left it out of a cartridge debate. Using a dead buddy to prop up your rants on an Internet debate is way more tasteless than anything I said.

He is using the death of a friend to draw a comparison. Pretty low I think- if this person even exists. Maybe it's just another BS story.
 
This debate has nothing to do with the effectiveness of Rugers 3/8" offering, as it's ballistics virtually are identical or even a touch better than the TRUE KING. My entire premise is that it will die off into oblivion for just this reason, it does nothing new. The fact that 5 years have now past without a single major ammo company jumping on the bandwagon to make ammo or brass available for it, tells us all what is in the future. The fact that only a couple low end makers have added this caliber to their line-ups is another telling feature as to the future of this dead cartridge.
Your research as to rifle company and reloading company offerings in this caliber show exactly what I've been saying, as far as loaded ammo companies....................it's even more telling.
Gatehouse has become "The Queen of Denial", where this cartridge is concerned, and as such is giving bad advice to others in hope of increasing sales so his stillborn baby doesn't get buried, quite yet. Now that Ruger has changed and put this cartridge into one of the ugliest platforms I've seen in many years, I think we can all say goodbye to the 375 Ruger, once and for all.
The 375 and up market is a very small market in the world of guns and hunters. It has been very well served with all the old proven, heavy game getters. All new entries into this market will usually fail because there is no niche for them to take hold. Look at the rash of 416s following the introduction of the 416 Rem, all of which are no longer available, except the original 416 Rigby, which didn't need improving. The 458 Lott has succeeded because the 458 Win did not live up to it's reported ballistics so a niche was there which needed a cartridge to fill and the Lott did it nicely. Add to these the old 404 Jeff, 450/400 NE, 500 NE, the 470 NE, the 375 H&H, 378 and 460 Wby for the extreme, and there just is no room for the 3/8" Ruger, 416 Ruger, 416 Rem or Wby, etc.


Blah Blah Blah. More unsubstantiated BS

375 Ruger sales have been very strong for a 375 caliber, it's not going to disappear.

;)
 
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I'm thinking of rebarreling a mauser 30-06 that's in great shape to a 375 ruger or just buying a m70 safari in 375 h&h. Its quite a toss-up trying to figure which one I will end up with. The history and well known reliability of the h&h in a new winchester package is very tempting. The m70 has everything I'm looking for and the m70 extreme weather I just bought is the gun in my safe that prints the smallest groups. The new Winchesters are good. The better quality from a custom in 375R is way better than the ruger rifle in my eyes. When the gunsmith said why not buy a ruger Alaskan? I told him I don't like the ruger especially with a houge stock and sako doesn't make a 375R and the sako Kodiak in 375 h&h has a barrel to short for what I want. If I get the 375R built then it will be pretty much the same as the m70 but in 375R, better quality than the ruger without the cost of a sako. Tough decision to make, I know I'm not going on safari anytime soon so there's no rush for one right now.
 
The last gun I bought............last fall,...........was a 375 H&H..................why would anybody get a different 375.........Especially when the H&H and Ruger are so close.........except for availability of factory ammo, factory ammo cost, rifle platforms, load data, dies, brass, and the most important - availability of exceptionally nice used beautiful perfect working firearms on the market chambered in the true king (.375 H&H if anybody is still unsure about that).

But - if you want a 375 Ruger, than get one. Nothing wrong with its performance as far as killing power that i am aware of. Happy hunting to all who use a 375 no matter which one.
 
I'm thinking of rebarreling a mauser 30-06 that's in great shape to a 375 ruger or just buying a m70 safari in 375 h&h. Its quite a toss-up trying to figure which one I will end up with. The history and well known reliability of the h&h in a new winchester package is very tempting. The m70 has everything I'm looking for and the m70 extreme weather I just bought is the gun in my safe that prints the smallest groups. The new Winchesters are good. The better quality from a custom in 375R is way better than the ruger rifle in my eyes. When the gunsmith said why not buy a ruger Alaskan? I told him I don't like the ruger especially with a houge stock and sako doesn't make a 375R and the sako Kodiak in 375 h&h has a barrel to short for what I want. If I get the 375R built then it will be pretty much the same as the m70 but in 375R, better quality than the ruger without the cost of a sako. Tough decision to make, I know I'm not going on safari anytime soon so there's no rush for one right now.

I went with the .375 Ruger on a JC Higgins M50 action(FN 98) that had been a .270 Win. My choosen gunsmith wasn't keen on adapting a 98 to 375 H&H because of that cartridges length. In reality though, it was an easy choice as I kind of like the Ruger version. And no, I don't think its the king of anything.

Anyway, the 98 is almost a perfect platform for the 375R. Mine holds 3+1 and functions perfectly. The conversion isn't just a simple rebarrel and bolt face mod. Quite a bit of metal needs to be removed from the rails plus ramp and follower work. The trick is to find a gunsmith that understands Mausers.
 
The reality is that the 375 Ruger may stand the test of time and as the old set in their ways guys die off maybe even become more popular. It is like debating between the 300 Win Mag and the 300WSM, if I had a 300 Win Mag I wouldn't buy a 300 WSM but if I was in the market for a 30 caliber magnum and didn't already own one I would go with the 300 WSM. I wouldn't be surprised if the WSM is outselling the Win Mag, or at least that is what the brass bucket at our range tells me.
 
Winchester - 0 .375R in catalogue
Remington - 0 .375R in catalogue
CZ - 0 .375R in catalogue
Sako/Tikka - 0 .375R in catalogue
Weatherby - 0 .375R in catalogue
Savage - several models have .375R chambering
Ruger - several models have .375R chambering

RCBS does not list a die set for .375R... !? (surprised me)
Hornady lists .375R dies
Lee Precision does not list a die set for .375R
Lyman does not list a die set for .375R
Redding lists .375R dies
Forester does not list a dies set for .375R



The only thing that matters in this ####ING STUPID DEBATE...

A 270gr or 300gr .375cal bullet will kill anything that walks, as long as you can delivery that bullet accurately.

I own a .375H&H.

Me too, haven't been without one since the 1960s...
 
I went with the .375 Ruger on a JC Higgins M50 action(FN 98) that had been a .270 Win. My choosen gunsmith wasn't keen on adapting a 98 to 375 H&H because of that cartridges length. In reality though, it was an easy choice as I kind of like the Ruger version. And no, I don't think its the king of anything.

Anyway, the 98 is almost a perfect platform for the 375R. Mine holds 3+1 and functions perfectly. The conversion isn't just a simple rebarrel and bolt face mod. Quite a bit of metal needs to be removed from the rails plus ramp and follower work. The trick is to find a gunsmith that understands Mausers.

Your 98 is a superb, first class rifle and you could not have found a better fella to do it for you.
Bill is the best in my books and I'm still mulling around asking him to build a wildcat on the Ruger case with a pre-64 action.
I just have to find a stock maker as my favourite wood worker is gone....
 
This thread should be locked.

Gatehouse should grow up.

Gatehouse has no class, the insult to a member and someone that has passed on proved it.
 
This thread should be locked.

Gatehouse should grow up.

Gatehouse has no class, the insult to a member and someone that has passed on proved it.

Probably more insulting to the deceased fellow is that his supposed friend is using his death as a debating tool. That's comparable to Wendy using murder victims to bolster her gun control arguments.
 
In 2011 Norma announced the introduction of a serie of new magnum cartridges, similar to the .358 and the .308 NM, a beltless cartridge, based on the 416. Rigby, in .300, .338 and .375 calibers. Funilly, it vanished from their subsequent catalogs just like it never happened.
I don't think it's a coincidence and those Hornady cases may well be made by Norma, as they manufactured cases for the RUM series. If it's the case, and I'm pretty sure it is, then, the supply of brass will last as long as Norma will be making the Big African cartridges.

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