375 ruger velocity
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Just to clear things up, the Ruger is a fine round but in no way comes close to the 375 Imp. type rounds. My old Ackley would do 2800+ fps with 300 grs. no problem. Its H&H balistics in a more compact package. As far as if you want more power go bigger dia. I agree and have .40+ guns. But to say flattening the trajectory is no good? Why have a 300 Mag. when an 06 will do? The Ruger is a great round but the 378 rules.
ruger velocity
Hi folks,
My father in law has an african and we chronographed the 270 grain factory load (didn't have dies yet so no handloads) and it came in at an average of 2610 fps for the box, a full 230 fps under the published data...Which is kind of what I expected after the WSM's, lotsa talk but not alot of walk
...Maybe this particular gun has a 'slow barrel', and it was only one instance or ______(insert other excuses)...With that being said however, if the case capacity does indeed exceed the h&h then it should, by all means be faster than the old girl, as there is no replacement for displacement...I have an h&h so we will be doing a head to head comparison with handloads, the only problem is that my rifle has a two inch longer barrel and I'll have to wait until my next set of holidays before making my way south to cowtown...
'rifle
Hi folks,
My father in law has an african and we chronographed the 270 grain factory load (didn't have dies yet so no handloads) and it came in at an average of 2610 fps for the box, a full 230 fps under the published data...Which is kind of what I expected after the WSM's, lotsa talk but not alot of walk
...Maybe this particular gun has a 'slow barrel', and it was only one instance or ______(insert other excuses)...With that being said however, if the case capacity does indeed exceed the h&h then it should, by all means be faster than the old girl, as there is no replacement for displacement...I have an h&h so we will be doing a head to head comparison with handloads, the only problem is that my rifle has a two inch longer barrel and I'll have to wait until my next set of holidays before making my way south to cowtown...'rifle
How does the 375 Taylor measure up?
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If I recollect the .375 Taylor drives a 270 gr bullet at 2500 or there abouts.
I am anxious to test some handloads in the .375 Ruger and dies are on order. If we get 2500 with 300 gr bullets that's perfect. I'm leaning towards Winchester 760 as perhaps the best go to powder for the shorter round, but time will tell. It will be interesting to see what the Ruger does with 380 gr Rhinos.
I am anxious to test some handloads in the .375 Ruger and dies are on order. If we get 2500 with 300 gr bullets that's perfect. I'm leaning towards Winchester 760 as perhaps the best go to powder for the shorter round, but time will tell. It will be interesting to see what the Ruger does with 380 gr Rhinos.
Although there are are many 375 wildcats, the 375 Weatherby is pretty similar to most of the improved rounds, Roy Weatherby claimed 2800 fps for 300gr bullets with a 26" barrel, but most of the pressure tested data lists around 2700fps (or less) for the Weatherby.I always question the pressure of the 2800+ fps loads.
Case capacity of the 375 Weatherby is about 105 gr, the much larger 378 is about138gr, and most 300gr data from a 26" barrel tops out just at or just under 2900fps, so 2800fps + from a 375 Weatherby does raise some pressure questions.
Copmparing Hodgdons pressure tested data (as I did) it clearly shows the Ruger nipping on the heels of the 375 Weatherby.
Regardless, the Ruger was never designed to be a really fast 375- It was designed to match H&H velocities in a 20" barrel, beat the H&H a bit with a 23" barrel, and that it does.
Actually, I didn't say flattening trajectories was "no good" -I said that it wasn't worth the added recoil for benefits that do not start until out past 300 yards--where few 375's will get shot anyway. IF I want to shoot at longer ranges, I'll just click up the scope, anyway.
I also said that if you want more killing power, (like if you want to stop buffalo and elephants etc) move up in bore size...
The H&H still rules, the 378 is just faster. 378's don't fly off shelves
I expect to see the Ruger compete well with the H&H, just as the 300WSM has competed well with the 300WM.
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Hi folks,
My father in law has an african and we chronographed the 270 grain factory load (didn't have dies yet so no handloads) and it came in at an average of 2610 fps for the box, a full 230 fps under the published data...Which is kind of what I expected after the WSM's, lotsa talk but not alot of walk
'rifle
Interesting...I've been keeping tabs on the 375 Ruger for some time,, reading just about any magazine article as well as reading numerous postings on various forums regarding it, and virtually everyone has got advertised velocities.
2610fps is in 300gr bullet area. BE interesting to see what the comparision shows.
Both my 375 Wby and Rembo's easily reach 2800 fps with 300 gr bullets using Norma 204 and IMR4350, and do so with primer pockets still tight after five rounds.
The guy who bought Rembo's 23 inch Model 700 is still shooting the same load in the same brass two years later!
Faster, yes, but remember that you need a magnum length action for the 375 Wby, while Gate's 375 Ruger is in a short action if that turns your crank. Neither was it ever supposed to beat the 375 H&H by 200 fps.
Ted
The guy who bought Rembo's 23 inch Model 700 is still shooting the same load in the same brass two years later!
Faster, yes, but remember that you need a magnum length action for the 375 Wby, while Gate's 375 Ruger is in a short action if that turns your crank. Neither was it ever supposed to beat the 375 H&H by 200 fps.
Ted
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You got me there.I am sure he will let us know, once he finally gets it....
This job does seem to be taking alot longer than usual. It would have been faster, but I wanted a SS bbl and Bevan had none on hand when I sent the receiver. He had to make a few up before starting the job, but the price certainly makes up for the wait. I'd have to wait till the snow goes off the range before shooting anyways.
I'd be happy with 2500-2600fps with a 22" bbl. and 270gr bullets. I'd much prefer to have a rifle that is consistently accurate every time I shoot it.
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Well, you are getting very good velocity, according to most data. I'm only going on what the powder companies have published, never owned a 375 Weatherby myself.
Although when I was contemplating having a 375 built, the 375 Weatherby, 375 Taylor and 375 H&H were all on the short list...Then the Ruger Alaskan was announced and I saw what I wanted to get built, right in factory form!! (I was never interested in 378 or 375 RUM)
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The 375 taylor,H&H and ruger will be close with the ruger being slightly faster.I was also able to see slightly better than 2600 with the H&H and a 300gr bullet with good case life, and about 2550 with the taylor, in a 22" barrel,I expect my custom 375 ruger on the way now to deliver between 2650-2700 with the 300gr in a 22" tube.All my 375 wby's delivered 2750-2800 with the 300gr in a 24" tube,and the 375 rum did 2870 in a 26" tube.The big 378 will deliver 3000 with a 300gr in a 26" tube.
I have a 26" barreled LSS Rem 700 with a spare synthetic stock in 375 RUM if the 375 Ruger Alaskan had come out before the RUM I would have most likely gone with it because it wasn't that I needed the extra velocity of the RUM I just wanted a bit more than the H&H could give me.
So to have a synthetic stocked, shorter barreled, standard length actioned, stainless steel rifle equiped from the factory with iron sights like the 375 Ruger Alaskan would have been perfect for me and my needs.
I'm not saying the Ruger is a better cartridge or that it is king of the hill what I am saying is that the rifle/cartridge combo is just about perfect for North America.
So to have a synthetic stocked, shorter barreled, standard length actioned, stainless steel rifle equiped from the factory with iron sights like the 375 Ruger Alaskan would have been perfect for me and my needs.
I'm not saying the Ruger is a better cartridge or that it is king of the hill what I am saying is that the rifle/cartridge combo is just about perfect for North America.
Thanks for the offer but I think I'll be keeping my RUM I now have some pretty awesome loads worked up for it eg 260gr Accubonds @ 3020fps and due to not needing more recoil when I have the synthetic stock on I reduced my 300gr Partition's to 2750fps.
I don't want to have to start all over working up loads for a different 375 again...
I don't want to have to start all over working up loads for a different 375 again...
Umm what about Weatherby?
I shoot a few of these best i could do was
375 H&H with a 270 gr was 2675
375 Epstien with a 270 gr wa 2810
378 with a 270 gr was 3120 rock and roll man!
a guy with a 375 rum could get 3100 ou tof his with 270 gr and 2900 with 300s
these were all loaded near max if we pushed it could have squeezed more but would have lost accuracy, you still need to hit what your shooting at
375 H&H with a 270 gr was 2675
375 Epstien with a 270 gr wa 2810
378 with a 270 gr was 3120 rock and roll man!
a guy with a 375 rum could get 3100 ou tof his with 270 gr and 2900 with 300s
these were all loaded near max if we pushed it could have squeezed more but would have lost accuracy, you still need to hit what your shooting at
weatherby is crap, belted case, overpriced ammo, magnum length actions, overpriced rifles, expensive brass
it is crap, the 375 ruger is the KING
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I don't consider faster necessarily better, but when I decided on the .375 Ultra I had considered the .378 but was intimidated by the price of the brass. After shooting my .416 Rigby, and I had no wish to pay that much for brass again.
I wanted a cartridge that would match .375 H&H ballistics from a 20" barrel. The H&H has proven itself around the globe as the ultimate all around cartridge. I load 300's to 2600 and 270's to 2800, although the Interlocks are only for practice or for down loading for small game. The 260 gr Nosler BT's I down loaded to 2600 to maximize bullet performance, and the equally sleek but tougher AB's I decided to load to the same velocity as it shoots flat enough for my purposes. The .378 would shine with 380 gr bullets, and would undoubtedly make the magic 2400 fps. The Ultra pushes them at 2300, and for the cost of the brass I don't feel hard done by.
I wanted a cartridge that would match .375 H&H ballistics from a 20" barrel. The H&H has proven itself around the globe as the ultimate all around cartridge. I load 300's to 2600 and 270's to 2800, although the Interlocks are only for practice or for down loading for small game. The 260 gr Nosler BT's I down loaded to 2600 to maximize bullet performance, and the equally sleek but tougher AB's I decided to load to the same velocity as it shoots flat enough for my purposes. The .378 would shine with 380 gr bullets, and would undoubtedly make the magic 2400 fps. The Ultra pushes them at 2300, and for the cost of the brass I don't feel hard done by.
