.375 Ruger
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Unfortunately their usually wrong because of their total lack of experience... 
OPO is fine with me because I am and anytime you would like to get together to actually see how its done give me a pm...
Some of you guys are such good humour I love the internet remember I'm a King on it too... Bwaaahaaaahaaaa.....
OPO is fine with me because I am and anytime you would like to get together to actually see how its done give me a pm...
Some of you guys are such good humour I love the internet remember I'm a King on it too... Bwaaahaaaahaaaa.....
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That is amazing...the 300WM has had a FIFTY YEAR head start and it is #10, while the 300WSM has been around for about 5 or 6 years and it's right behind the WM at 13....Certainly shows how popular the WSM has become.
Well Gate you are correct and then again you aren't the 300WM has been around for a long time and most of the folk that have them already have loading dies which tells me that there are still more people buying the old 300WM over the new 300WSM...
....with a 50 year head start, and every manufacter chambering rifles in 300WM. Liek I say, it's remarkable how popular the WSM is, considering the 50 year head start, Winchester hasn't been making rifles for some time, and other manufacturers only offering a few WSM options right now.
We'll check back to this thread in 10 years
I had a hard time finding reloading die sales figures. I do not know about the Rifle Magazine data, what year it is supposed to be. I assume it is current.
The only year I found sales figures for was 2005 and in that year the .300WM was #9 and the .300WSM was #11, so it appears they are both consistent, with the numbers from the magazine article.
Safe to say that .300Mags are some of the most popular calibers world-wide and will remain so. I expect the WM and WSM to run neck-in-neck for years to come. Likely the same will happen with the .375H&H and the .375R.
Omega I don't see you what you're getting out of this argument, other pissing people off. It might be better to just back away slowly...
The only year I found sales figures for was 2005 and in that year the .300WM was #9 and the .300WSM was #11, so it appears they are both consistent, with the numbers from the magazine article.
Safe to say that .300Mags are some of the most popular calibers world-wide and will remain so. I expect the WM and WSM to run neck-in-neck for years to come. Likely the same will happen with the .375H&H and the .375R.
Omega I don't see you what you're getting out of this argument, other pissing people off. It might be better to just back away slowly...
I Omega I don't see you what you're getting out of this argument, other pissing people off. It might be better to just back away slowly...
You know I wasn't arguing with anyone until cookie decided he should weigh in and cover everything with BS.
Well, I have 2 observations after reaing this thread.
1. Noel has a Ruger 375 now and therefore has no use for his 9.3x62, which he will no doubt sell to me for a decent price.
2. You still have to read a tonne of BS to learn one usefull thing on the internet.
1. Noel has a Ruger 375 now and therefore has no use for his 9.3x62, which he will no doubt sell to me for a decent price.
2. You still have to read a tonne of BS to learn one usefull thing on the internet.
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Well, the only thing I learned is that there actually ARE people out there that read Omega's posts.
Well it seems that you have several internet kills and even some internet record animals under your belt . on top of that you own some internet 375s that you hate ( you would think you wouldnt get the other two if ya could handle the first) as well as a virtual arsenal of other firearms that you must slay numerous internet animals with.
I have to ask myself, and i am sure you do the same thing on those days you make it out of your mothers basement, but after all your internet accomplishments how do they compare to the real thing ??
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the bad thing about the pretend king 375 Ultra is you have to carry 2 extra guns to be able to handle all situations encountered by the 375 ruger! the real king
the real point of the KING is to provide H&H ballistics from a shorter, lighter, cheaper rifle. long live the true king, the Ruger 375!
Sorry, TB, but I believe that to be nothing but pure Ruger propaganda. By my latest records, Rem offers the 700XCR for $999.99, CZ550 at $1020.00 and I do believe that one can opt for a Browing A Bolt for around $1000.00 (if that's even a viable option). Ruger seems the only one to have doubled the price of the .375 H&H chambering, likely as a means to promote the .375 Ruger. Nothing against the Ruger, but let's be fair here and don't believe everything you hear from the folks at Ruger. A CZ550 would be a clear choice in the $1000.00 price range.
gitrdun said:
Yo dawg! Only if you want the .375H&H! Ruger is only putting the H&H cartridge in their M-77 Safari magnum and that is up around of $2000.
A M-700 XCR is a fair option.
Browning? What's that!?
You are right about one thing; Ruger has priced the Hawkeye .375R extremely attractively. Personally, I think it's a helluva buy.
I would buy a good used .375H&H in a CZ-550, ZKK-602, M-70 or maybe a M-700 Classic.
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I told Dave Jennings what I had in mind and that was the result.
TB I know your trying but it is falling on deaf ears literally...
I'm curious when did a cartridge become a rifle?
Let me clear up the misunderstanding for those that are uninformed...
As a comparison lets look at the 30-06 it is actually an amazing round that is extremely versatile but then along came the 300WM that reached out with an extremely flat trajectory and killed things with an authority that the 30-06 could only dream of.
In other words when comparing the performance of either the 30-06 or 300WM the WM was devastating to animals.
The same holds true for the 375H&H/Ruger cartridges when you compare them to the 375RUM yes they will do the job but not with the amazing authority of the RUM...
I have shot many animals with a 375 H&H with 300gr Partitions which as you know is exactly the same performance of your Ruger and I well know the capabilities of the rounds but it just doesn't stand up to the flat shooting capabilities of the RUM in performance no matter what rifle it is chambered in.
When an animal is hit by the high velocity RUM it is bang/flop and the stopping power and flatter trajectory with identical bullets that are used in the lowly cartridges is unbelievably more.
Because I am an OPO (thanks Omega
) I don't want a Jack of all trades that bows to the true Masters/Kings...Will the Jack get the job done by all means it will just not in the absolutely flat shooting/high impact way that the true King can.
I'm also a gun nut and do not limit myself to only one rifle/cartridge on a trip as I have said before I take the true Masters with me and switch to the the most appropriate rifle/cartridge that conditions warrant because I can.
I can do it with one rifle like you and Gate are promoting but were is the fun in that?
Same reason I carry the true Master of the handgun cartridges the 454 Casull in a chopped 4.25" SRH made for me by another master Gunnar @ Armco, I shoot a 454 Casull handgun because if you were to compare it's performance to the 45 Colt the same holds true for these cartridges as it does for the comparisons I gave above...
Yeah I now shoot the King of the 375's not the Jack...
