38/357

I'm a bigger S&W fan than a Ruger fan. But you won't go wrong with a GP100. And if the full under lug look is what you like then that is what you should buy. But you DO realize that most of the 686's are also full underlug, right?

There's a difference between the Ruger and S&W trigger too. The Ruger has a noticeable "click" felt through the trigger when it releases the cylinder stop. That occurs just before the trigger break. Being more of a S&W shooter I find this click somewhat disconcerting as now I'm "warned" that the gun is going to go BANG! instead of it being a total surprise like I prefer. And for some it's an excuse to stage the trigger and then snap off the release when they think they are on target. It's been my observation that those which do this tend to produce more open groupings than they would if they smoothly pulled the trigger fully through the whole movement. So if you go Ruger try not to be a "stager". Your groups will thank you.

If you are a reloader you COULD just buy .357Mag brass and load it to whatever power level you prefer up to and including magnum loads. But generally it's easier to find .38Spl brass for less money and with more frequency.

A .40Cal bronse brush on a short extension mounted in a hand drill makes short work of the carbon ring left by .38Spl length casings. Use a good carbon solvent with the brush. I use Hoppes. It's OK but I suspect there are better options. The rotary turning is hard on the brushes. But I find I can get 5 or 6 cleanings from a .40Cal brush before it's mutilated too much to use well. A short steel rod extension allows me to use some side force on the brush as it becomes messed up and doesn't provide good wall pressure at around the third cleaning session.

Post pictures when it arrives in a suitable gun gloat.
 
I've shot both the gp100 and many 5/686 guns even some that have had the wortner work over. I can't explain why I just prefer the ruger. It is one of the few ruger guns that fit me well and every one I've shot has been extremely accurate
 
I shot probably 15,000 rounds of lead .38 though my "no dash" 686 and didn't need to do any out-of-the-ordinary cleaning of the cylinder to accommodate the thousand or so .357 rounds I fired through it.
 
The Alpha Project 38/357 revolvers are steel and recently they started bringing in some stainless steel ones. The are very good quality (better than Ruger, not quite as good as S&W). The only issue I have with my 9261 9mm is that the cost of moon clips was very expensive.

I like the ruger gp100 over the SW 686. Is there any others I should look at for a sa/da revolver? I see alpha proj a lot and like their looks but not sure I want a light weight alloy frame and their front blade looks to sit very high
 
I first thought about their 38 in alloy frame but I prefer steel. The front sight looks extremely high to me. I haven't shot one yet. I'd prefer steel. I think it would be easier to find aftermarket wood grips for the gp100 would it not?
 
I played with a couple Taurus models and hate the grips. The ruger seemed a much better gun. I'd like to handle a Rossi as well but haven't found any in stock any where close
 
What are your thots about shooting hard cast lead bullets in 357 ? As in, how fast can you push the lead bullets before the lead breaks down ? Just started shooting 38/357 and am planning on reloading
 
I first thought about their 38 in alloy frame but I prefer steel. The front sight looks extremely high to me. I haven't shot one yet. I'd prefer steel. I think it would be easier to find aftermarket wood grips for the gp100 would it not?

Blue Line Solutions (the Alfa importer) offers a good variety of wood grips and they will sell directly.
 
What are your thots about shooting hard cast lead bullets in 357 ? As in, how fast can you push the lead bullets before the lead breaks down ? Just started shooting 38/357 and am planning on reloading

Hard cast and the proper size are key to shooting lead at Magnum velocities and pressure levels. It's not ONLY the velocity. The pressure level is just as important. And sizing the bullets and using the proper alloy so that they fully fit the bore counts for a lot. So it all ends up being a balance of these three factors.

And odd as it may sound it's not about using a really hard lead alloy then water dropping to make it even harder. You want SOME amount of hardness so the lead doesn't break down under the Magnum pressure levels. But you still want it soft enough that the pressure can obturate the lead into the rifling and provide a proper seal. The hot gasses leaking around the bullet if it is too hard to obturate into the grooves is a good way to blow the lubricant out of the grooves and end up with the lead running hard on the steel and galling. So as with most things it's about finding the right balance of hardness and fit so you get a proper seal and keep the lube in the grooves where it can do its job. Go too soft though and the high pressure will force the lead too hard onto the bore and result in the lead smearing and galling on the steel.

See if you can find the writings of Elmer Kieth as related to what he did for loading his .44Magnum loads with hard cast lead bullets and what he did to avoid leading up the bore. It'll be the same thing for your .357Mag cast loading.
 
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