.38 s&w-200

Hi bob,
Cabelas used to carry it under the remington umc brand, but is usually sold out. Other than that it's old ammo or hand loads.
 
The only way I've been able to get it is to find the odd box at a gun show or cast and load my own.

The 200 grain bullet used in those cartridges was lead. Not pure but still fairly soft. Because of the Geneva Convention, the UK and other signatories couldn't use cast bullets any longer and went to swaged metal clad bullets.

The 38/200 was and still is a very effective round. At close to 650 fps, the penetration at pistol ranges is quite impressive
 
baad I will look at cabellas and bear hunter I am getting set up for reloading this and other rounds but as with .455 webley the brass is usually not much off of fiocchi rounds so might as well buy it ready made and then use the brass for reloading1
 
Any bulk 38 S&W brass or loaded rounds will work fine. The case is identical. The 38 S&W factory loads are still available and still made to day but with 158 grain bullets. You might actually find these loads a lot more pleasant to shoot than the heavy military loadings.

Most pistols chambered in 38/200 are relatively light. The original milspec load is very stout in them. I often load and shoot the 158 grain and even the 125 grain bullets out of my pistols.

Winchester, Hornady and I believe Remington, still load the 38 S&W, maybe others as well and they are a lot cheaper than Fiocchi.
 
bobdbldr said:
baad I will look at cabellas and bear hunter I am getting set up for reloading this and other rounds but as with .455 webley the brass is usually not much off of fiocchi rounds so might as well buy it ready made and then use the brass for reloading1
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CGN member Jethunter sells 38/200 200 grain projectiles as well as 455 projectiles for reloading
 
Thanks for the lead on bullets bcshooter. I've got over 1,500 empty brass waiting for projectiles.
 
+1 for member jethunters' 38/200 bullets.
I just got some and they look great, are very uniform. They're pre lubed and are 0.362" dia. which is correct for service revolvers.
 
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CGN member Jethunter sells 38/200 200 grain projectiles as well as 455 projectiles for reloading
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Yep I will be getting in touch with him as soon as I get my BRass in gear! ;0) I don't want to bug him til I figure out which and how many I want to order, I will need .442 webley .450 adams, .455/476 webley, 38/200, 38/55 .45 acp, .44 for .44 russian,,,etc. He has helped me lots in the past with valuable info, as have many of you good folks. I will be starting to hand load in about 6-8 weeks and have some of the dies but need to order others. I still have some reading to do and tormenting you guys!!
Cheers Bob
 
Most mom and pop gun shops will have a couple boxs epps unusual has some all Simon's had some last time I was in but get ready to pay 357mag prices it will be 35+a box and keep the brass even if u dont reload some one would take it off your hands no problem might even get 10 bucks for 50 once fired brass.
 
Well I've decided to give up on this caliber for now so I listed all my loaded ammo and empty brass in the EE if you guys are still looking.
 
If people are looking for .38 S&W ammo, I found some at Shooter's Choice in Kitchener, ON. It's Remington Express Pistol and Revolver and comes in the green and yellow box
 
Modern loads for the 38 S&W are usually .357 dia and are not that accurate. The best bullet is the 200 Grain .362 that Jethunter sells which is a NOE mold if I am not mistaken.
 
Factory .38 S&W ammo is loaded with a 146-grain RN bullet, at least according to the box.

Military stuff was specifically loaded with a 200-grain slug and the guns were specifically rifled AND SIGHTED for this heavier slug.

With the commercial 146 loads, the old Service Enfields and Webleys will shoot LOW and grouping will be erratic.

Load in some of JETHUNTER's 200-grainers and you are back to what they fought a World War with..... and won.
 
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