.38 special or .38 s&w ??

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Hello,

Recently I had the opportunity to shoot a .38 special revolver at the club I belong to. I was never interested in revolvers before this and was surprised....I really enjoyed it.

Being new to shooting and thus with little experience, I would appreciate any/all input on .38 revolvers.

*top manufacturers
*which is cheaper to shoot
*whats the diff between the 2
*which is more common

Thanks in advance for your time,

Coach
 
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.38 special is more common. .38 S&W is a lot weaker than .38 special and the size of the casing/bullet is slightly different as well.
 
.38 S&W isnt really in common use anymore whereas the .38 special is a common round. If your interested in the .38 special it would be best if you got a .357 magnum as the .357 magnum can chamber .38 special as well. You wont find to many manufactuers making .38 specials anymore but they are a few out there. Top maufactueres would be S&W, Ruger,Taurus or Colt
 
1 - Ruger, Smith & Wesson, Taurus, Colt, ... that's all i can think of
2 - probably 38 Special
3 - dunno
4 - same as #2, usually the more common stuff is cheaper to shoot (kinda logical)

for 2 & 4, i base my decision by what's available and for how much at SFRC. i wouldn't buy a handgun in a caliber that i couldn't buy ammo for in volume at SFRC, unless it was only a once-in-a-while range toy, just to go BANG BANG 5-20 times a month.
 
38 special is far, far more common. Any of the revolvers for 357 magnum can also shoot 38 special. However, it does not work the other way. You cannot shoot 357 mag in a 38 special revolver.

As for brands, there are lots of options for new 357's. If you want a used 38 special, there are lots of very good S&W revolvers out there for reasonable prices.

Here's some more info on the cartridges:

38 special: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_Special
38 S&W: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_S&W

K.O.
 
.357Mag, if you shoot that ammo instead of the .38Spl, certainly does have more kick. But it's fun to put a few harder hitters downrange now and then after a bunch of the milder .38Spl.

For older blued goodness it's very hard to beat a S&W Models 19, 27 or 28. Newer and very fine options would be either the blued 586 or the all stainless 686.
 
I have two S&W 38 Special revolvers (a Heavy Duty & a Model 64) and one Colt Model 357 as well.

I like the Colt, but it doesn't get the range as much as the Smith sixguns, because if I break it, gunsmiths who are familiar with Colts are rarer than gunsmiths trained/qualified on S&W products in this country.

Therefore I would recommend a S&W or Ruger instead.

PS: Yes one of the few true joys in life is shooting a very accurate 38 Special sixgun. (or 44 Special too!)
I recently let a brand new pistolero shoot the S&W Model 64, and he actually struck black a few times, with a little instruction.
He then happily trundled off to his brand new purchase,(Sig-Sauer 9mm) and promptly hit nothing with his box of ammo.

Maybe he is ruined now!! ;)
 
I'll go with those who recommended a .357 Magnum/38spl.

For a revolver, my number one pick would be a Ruger GP100 4.2 inch barrel in Stainless. IMO it is the best all-around .357/38 with the best all around barrel length.

Number 2 pick would be the GP100 6 inch barrel, also stainless.

Number 3 pick would be a Ruger Security Six 6".

Number 4 a Smith & Wesson 686 6"

Now, after a quality 357/38, your next purchase should be a simple Lee Classic Turret Press to keep you in ammo. You will probably be shooting 3 to 4 hundred rounds per session. So if you are poor and practical like me, to afford the ammo, reloading is the next logical step.
 
The 38 S&W is really expensive to shoot, in the neighborhood of twice to three times the amount of .38 special. The bullet is bigger in diameter than the .38 spl , .361" to the .38 spl of .357" (guess where the magnum got it's name from?).

To reload 38 S&W you can use a smaller diameter bullet meant for the .38 spl but usually it isn't at all accurate and you can get leading in the barrel. I had a custom mold made up for the 38 S&W that is the correct diameter and 200 grn to duplicate the correct loading. Expensive ammo, hard to get correct reloading supplies and hard to resell other than to a collector.

As mentioned before the .357 Mag will shoot .38 specials in it and the reloading components are cheap and readily available. If you want to get into casting your own bullets there are literally dozens of molds out there to choose from, all different designs and weights.

To reload the .357 Mag you use the same bullet, same primers, and even the same powder if you want (just more of it) and the same reloading dies. Only thing that changes is the actual case that is .10" longer so you can have your cake and eat it too.

Colt Python is the top of the list as far as production revolvers go for smoothness, accuracy and fit and finish. Very pricey and hard to find.

Then comes Smith and Wesson, parts are easy to find and well made. Any K frame or N frame revolver is a good buy, fit and finish are good and trigger action is excellent, smooth single action and double action.

Rugers are built tough and will eat a steady diet of heavy ammo that would wear a Smith or Colt out. Rugers can be tuned up by a gunsmith to come close to a S&W out of the box but basically for a new shooter it isn't necessary. I have a GP100 and it is a fine shooter and accurate, I also have some older security six's, police service revolvers that are good also.

Stay away from any of the unknowns, parts are nearly impossible to get and that includes Taurus revolvers also. They are sold in most gun shops but there is no parts or service for one as much as the sales person would have you believe. Just phone up a shop and say you broke your Model 66's hand or cylinder stop and wait for the reply and "song and dance" that will ensue. After they bs to you for about 3 minutes then say, "but I bought the revolver from you 11 month's ago so where do I get it fixed". Then the standard answer of "you can take it to a gunsmith for repair" at your dime is usually blurted out. Call Taurus USA in Miami and they will drop you like a hot potato as soon as they find out you are Canadian. Great customer service.
 
Thank you

To all that have replied:

Thanks very much guys....I appreciate you taking the time to offer your input to this new shooter. I now feel a bit better, and and definitely now more educated toward things.

Have a great day!

Coach
 
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