.38spl Cost of 148gr FWC vs 148gr HBWC??

Just love those 148gr HBWC .38's, so does my Smith & Wesson's...

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It may well just be coincidence but I've shot my best targets lately with my S&W K-38 and the Centaure 125gr TMJ

Guess it is, I've shot Centaure 125gr TMJ in both .38 & .357 flavors and while it's decent ammo, it doesn't compare to match WC (factory or reloaded) ammo at all.
 
Guess it is, I've shot Centaure 125gr TMJ in both .38 & .357 flavors and while it's decent ammo, it doesn't compare to match WC (factory or reloaded) ammo at all.

I expect you are right. I don't think I'm a good enough shot for ammo to make that much difference. I suspect I just happened to be using the Centaure when I had a good night.;)
 
Hollow Base WC's are swaged. Takes a different machine and starts with soft lead wire. HBWC's are more accurate than cast bullets.
The FWC is a cast double ended WC's.
Just using the best ammo you can will help improve your shooting. Even switching from cast to swaged WC's makes a difference.
 
148 HBWC are $3 cheaper/1000 than 158TC from my local campro dealer. I honestly love using HBWC bullets they shoot insanely well out of my 686.
 
I could be wrong here and please correct me if so, but I think Full Wadcutters and HBWC are terms that are interchangeable. The FWC is to differentiate from the SWC rds.
Since they are both listed at 148gr, I think the FWC may be hollow based too?
Maybe call the seller and ask why the cost difference. Maybe one is sold as " match" ammo and the other is for plinking?

You are incorrect. The WC (or in your terms FWC) is a solid bullet that looks like a miniature, flat on both ends bean can. The HBWC is exactly that, with a softer lead composition that allows the skirt of the bullet to expand out into the rifling so that accuracy at lower velocities is possible even with slightly varying bores.

ETA -should have read Ganderite's post first. As to sunray's reply, DEWC (or WC) bullets can also be swaged, and often are. I cast 150 gr DEWC that are as accurate for me as any HBWC...
 
Just pick up the last unit of 500 148 gr HBWC from SFRC, some gurus opinion sparked my interest, i will be able to compare them th the 148 WC i have... Thanks for the infos... JP.
 
Just to be clear....I was referring to 500 round cases of 148gr HBWC .38 special ammunition commercially reloaded by the company Wolf Bullets Ltd, not projectiles at $179.95 for 500.

My original post was wondering why it seems that the HBWC ammo is several dollars a box more than the FWC ammo. Then, I was asking what the advantage/disadvantage is of the one projectile over the other.

It would help on these forums if posters used the correct words, so we all knew what was being said. Your original post referred to the cost of "bullets" - so my response was about "bullets".

If you had said "ammunition", I would have discussed the cost of making ammunition. I would like to think that everyone reading this forum knows the difference between bullets and cartridges or ammunition.

And "bullet" and "projectile" are not synonymous. A projectile has velocity. Most bullets eventually become projectiles, but not until they get launched.

The double ended wad cuttters are usually cast. They have an end corresponding to the bottom of the mold and an end where the sprue cutter was. When you load them into the case, try orienting them sprue end up and see if they shoot better groups than random.
 
It would help on these forums if posters used the correct words, so we all knew what was being said. Your original post referred to the cost of "bullets" - so my response was about "bullets".

If you had said "ammunition", I would have discussed the cost of making ammunition. I would like to think that everyone reading this forum knows the difference between bullets and cartridges or ammunition.

And "bullet" and "projectile" are not synonymous. A projectile has velocity. Most bullets eventually become projectiles, but not until they get launched.

The double ended wad cuttters are usually cast. They have an end corresponding to the bottom of the mold and an end where the sprue cutter was. When you load them into the case, try orienting them sprue end up and see if they shoot better groups than random.

I don't mean to be pedantic but my original post said "I notice SFRC has 500 round cases of Wolf Bullets 148gr HBWC for 179.95" not "I notice SFRC has 500 round cases of Wolf 148gr HBWC bullets for 179.95"

Wolf Bullets being the name of the company that reloads the ammunition.

I used the full company name of "Wolf Bullets" to differentiate from the Russian made ammo sold under the "Wolf Performance Ammunition" brand in the US.

Sorry if you were confused.

As to your "projectile vs bullet" comment I stand corrected . I was not aware of the difference.

My dictionary says "Projectile: A fired, thrown, or otherwise propelled object, such as a bullet, having no capacity for self-propulsion." I guess those editors aren't reloaders;)
 
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I don't mean to be pedantic but my original post said "I notice SFRC has 500 round cases of Wolf Bullets 148gr HBWC for 179.95" not "I notice SFRC has 500 round cases of Wolf 148gr HBWC bullets for 179.95"

Wolf Bullets being the name of the company that reloads the ammunition.

I used the full company name of "Wolf Bullets" to differentiate from the Russian made ammo sold under the "Wolf Performance Ammunition" brand in the US.

Sorry if you were confused.

As to your "projectile vs bullet" comment I stand corrected . I was not aware of the difference.

My dictionary says "Projectile: A fired, thrown, or otherwise propelled object, such as a bullet, having no capacity for self-propulsion." I guess those editors aren't reloaders;)

I saw no confusion there... JP.
 
I don't mean to be pedantic but my original post said "I notice SFRC has 500 round cases of Wolf Bullets 148gr HBWC for 179.95" not "I notice SFRC has 500 round cases of Wolf 148gr HBWC bullets for 179.95"

Wolf Bullets being the name of the company that reloads the ammunition.

I used the full company name of "Wolf Bullets" to differentiate from the Russian made ammo sold under the "Wolf Performance Ammunition" brand in the US.

Sorry if you were confused.

As to your "projectile vs bullet" comment I stand corrected . I was not aware of the difference.

My dictionary says "Projectile: A fired, thrown, or otherwise propelled object, such as a bullet, having no capacity for self-propulsion." I guess those editors aren't reloaders;)

You are right. I did not pick up on Bullets being capitalized.

As for the Dictionary "Projectile: A fired, thrown, or otherwise propelled object, such as a bullet,..." they have it right. A projectile is an object with velocity. Be it a beer bottle, stone or a bullet. But whatever it is, it only becomes a "projectile" when in ballistic flight.
 
I don't mean to be pedantic but my original post said "I notice SFRC has 500 round cases of Wolf Bullets 148gr HBWC for 179.95" not "I notice SFRC has 500 round cases of Wolf 148gr HBWC bullets for 179.95"

Wolf Bullets being the name of the company that reloads the ammunition.

I used the full company name of "Wolf Bullets" to differentiate from the Russian made ammo sold under the "Wolf Performance Ammunition" brand in the US.

Sorry if you were confused.

As to your "projectile vs bullet" comment I stand corrected . I was not aware of the difference.

My dictionary says "Projectile: A fired, thrown, or otherwise propelled object, such as a bullet, having no capacity for self-propulsion." I guess those editors aren't reloaders;)

Wolf bullets also sells bullets for reloading :)
 
That's right.......So it would be correct to say "I bought a box of Wolf Bullets bullets....which I intend to turn into projectiles at some point".;)

Indeed. What I find annoying is people who call bullets bullet tips. Seems to be the hunters who do that. while bullets are used in cartridges I can understand why people called loaded ammo bullets. And then they load those bullets into clips :/.
 
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