3K$-4K$ Precision Rifle?

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Hi all,

First post! Registered in this forum in '05 and have only been re-visiting as of late...

To get to the matter at hand: I'd like to get my hands on a cal. .308 precision rifle in the $3000 to $4000 range, preferably of European make that's great without customization.

I went to a local retailer (I live in Montreal, Quebec) and asked the same question. The dealer insisted I buy a 700 and customize it (trigger, bedding, etc. etc.) - or go with a European make since, according to him, "the attention to detail given is almost as good as custom". I said I wasn't interested in custom and that I'd rather go Euro in the 3-4K$ range. He said either Tikka T3 (~1700$) or Sako TRG-22 (~3400$), but that, and I quote (more or less), "Sako's long action is overkill for the .308 you want, since these rifles are made for larger calibers like the Lapua or BMG". He preferred the T3. Does any of this make sense? What are your suggestions?

I've actually had my sights set on the Blaser R93 LRS2 for years (since I heard about the > 0.5 MOA), but he said that it's discontinued (yet it's still on Blaser's site) and that the new Tactical 2 would set me back 6000$!!! :eek: Is the LRS2 really not available anymore? If it is still available - how much does it cost?

Any and all input is greatly appreciated! :)
 
My choice would be the TRG-22. If you are going to pay $6000 for a rifle, I would definitely go with Accuracy International AW. As far as a half moa gun goes, there are lots of rifles that shoot that or better. Just because you have a so called half moa rifle, doesn't mean its going to shoot that good. In perfect conditions in a rest... Also if the nut behind the bolt is not up to the task you are wasting your time and also be very dissapointed. Better off getting getting a Rem700P and shooting the #### out of it.
 
For that price range and staying away from custom you have only a few options. Personally i would stay away from the tikka as there are better out of the box rifles than them. Dont get me wrong they make great rifles just not my preference. Id go Sako TRG series or the Acuracy International AE.
 
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I don't understand your reluctance to own a custom made firearm. By definition custom means that the price is exactly what you want, rather than a mass produced instrument designed for the average shooter - who ever he is. $4K would get you a very nice rifle; $600 for a barrel, $1K for an action, $1K for an adjustable stock, $250 for a trigger, with enough left over for glass and assembly by a good smith. You could always buy the scope now, mount it on a Savage and have something to shoot until your "perfect for you" rifle is ready.
 
For 4K why would you want a production rifle. Go custom and get what you want, not what they want to give you. If you don't want a run of the mill action like a Remington or Savage, go with an RPA, Barnard or Millennium action. Or go see Armtech in Sherbrooke QC and have them build you one.
 
redman said:
Hi all,
To get to the matter at hand: I'd like to get my hands on a cal. .308 precision rifle in the $3000 to $4000 range, preferably of European make that's great without customization.
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Is this what you had in mind?

Grunig & Elmiger also make precision machined joints: knee joints, etc. My understanding is that they produce rifles when most of their machines are down for regular maintenance.
 
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The LRS2 is a good rifle, BUT the Blaser system is really not reloader friendly. Because their is no camming action, all brass needs to be full length resized to ensure proper operation. The system is also a little more delicate than standard bolt action rifles. It you plan on shooting lots, the Sako is a better value IMO. FWIW we sell TRG-22 with blued barrels for $2600.
 
ok first be very carrefull and ask TONS of questions here and online. Dose your initial 3 or 4k includes the optic in your view ? i see guy with 4k rifle and 400 -5oo $ scope all the time bad idea.
i would say yes to TSE 2600 trg-22 and spend the rest on a nice NSX scope
 
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If you really want to spend that much for just the rifle, the world is your oyster. There is precious little that you can't achieve. Why stop at 1/2 min when you can have a true 1/4 min rifle?

You might want to look at some of these very accurate and successful project rifles. 6mmBR.com gun of the week rifles. There are now 80 rifles that you can learn alot from.

Just surfing through this forum will lead you to many rifles that Canucks have put together.

Most are not as expensive as your udget and all will shoot as good or better then you want. True custom rifles built for max performance.

Take the very good advice about spending money on optics. Accurate rifles are easy to get these days for not much money. optics still cost.

Then also consider reloading as the best rifle in the world will not perform if fed crap.

Jerry
 
my custom built by he who should not be named is going to run me around $4200 but it is exactly what I want and no compromises.

going to get him to build my nrxt hunting rifle as well....
 
Wow,

Lot's of diffrering responses! But that's OK, everyone has their own preferences and that's to be expected. To get one issue out of the way (and put an end to it) is that I don't want to go custom because, knowing myself, I'll end up going left and right obsessing over getting over the best/rarest components. I've done that before for other things and I'm not ready to go through with it just yet! However, with time (and knowledge acquired here), I don't see a reason for not giving in later down the road ;)

Another thing, the 3000$ - 4000$ budget is for rifle only; I've already chosen a scope, so it's OK. Another thing: I'd like to get something easily accessible from Montreal (i.e. not farther than Ottawa, for example).

I'd like to address all the issues brought up, but I'll do with grouping those in the same category:

Re: Arctic Warfare - I don't know how much that rifle costs, but my budget isn't 6000$ as EC stated!!! Don't know much about this rifle.

Re: TRG-22 - seems like it's the popular choice amongst the responses thus far, but what about what the dealer told me, i.e. that that rifle is designed around a larger caliber, so the extra money is a waste... Does that make sense? I have nothing against the rifle, in fact, it seems like the decent choice here.

Re: Grunig & Elmiger - Look nice but are they even available in Canada?

Re: R93 LRS2 - I wouldn't mind putting in the extra for proper brass size. What do you mean by the action being delicate? Is the bolt prone to shoot out of the breech or something? Also, any idea of the price (rifle only)?

Re: Steyr - Which models according to my requirements?

Re: Reloading - no problem with that.
 
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Did you say Ottawa? What do you plan to shoot with it? Come and see us in Ottawa and we will put together a world class rifle for you. No Remington or Savage here!
 
why is it got to be in montreal ? for exemple the trg-22 is a trg 22 buy it from TSE and they will ship it to you canada post . just pick it up at the post office. where is the issue with that plus you will get pepole not trying to rape you on the price and they will take care of any issues. the year is 2007-8 if your going to buy something serious in the firearms world it will be online, strore are for old pepole that dont know how to use a computer
 
CanuckHunter, I am by no means adamant about the Blaser - the only reason it's in my sig is that I was looking for it back when I registered to this forum (Apr. '05)!! Besides, I still don't know how much it goes for in Canada...

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Since you already want and believe the Blaser R93 LRS2 is the rifle for you, find one and be happy. All the other choices are not for you and you won't be happy about them.
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Esquif, if I buy it in a store, I figure I can bargain a bit for the price... More importantly, I can actually get my hands on what I'm considering buying - can't do that with photos... Don't be so dismissive of doing things in person!

What's the online purchase procedure? Fax them my licence or what? And how long does it take (depending on store location)? What are the complications?
 
Ok your really not ready to do this, you have a LOT more reading to do first.


now you will have to take the time to listen to the advice others are trying to give you here:

1) go custom : you dont want to but how are you going to feel when sommeone outshoots you with a custom savage at 1500 $ ?

2) dont get the blaser r93: you know how is saying that to you ? the bigest blaser dealer in canada... because of the wired action of that particular model

3) buy online: bargain ??? they wanted 3400 and there is a guy offering you one for 2600. How much of a bargain do you think you could get ?? a hudered or two and a free hat ??

its extremely easy to buy online if you have the right permits.


you talk about price and model but you never said what you want to do with it ?

are you trying to look like a sniper or do you really want performance at a distance because a tube gun will outshoot all your choises for a fraction of the price. Do you want to compete ? F class ? bench rest ? sniper macth ?


all i am saying is go to the precision rifle section and read all the posts before you ask questions. listen to the pepole here they know their stuff 10000% more then any local dealers in montreal and they will not try to bull#### you like 99% of the local shops
 
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