#4 mk. ?

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I have a #4 which I beleive is a mk. 2 the problem is that there is no markings on the outside of the receiver except for 303 652 on the butt socket (left) and bnp on the left side of the receiver, that shrouds the barrel, with three lines that are configured to resemble a crown , but when the trigger guard is removed, you can look into the receiver and see "A 20" stamped in the rear corner, and a "T" stamped in the other corner, other than that the markings are all on the barrel including "surrey" was this a common accurance that a receiver would have no markings. the barrel is crisp and clean, the riflings almost look new. sorry no pics. ( my daughter has the camera, like usual ) I from the south and don't know alot about the Enfields but i have fallen in love with them and want to learn more, can anyone help me determine the geographical place of origin. thanks, smoker
 
If the trigger is attached to the action it is a mk2.If its attached to the trigger guard it's a mk1.If it's a converted Longbranch or savage it's a 1/3
 
Where is the trigger mounted? If it is on the trigger guard, it is a Mk1.

If it is hung from the receiver, then it is a Mk 2 or a Mk 1/2, or possibly, a 1/3.
 
Yes ... quite common for sported rifles. If the original serial # is still on the rifle, it can be used to identify the manufacturer - its typically located on the left side of the butt socket.
 
Yes, an unmarked receiver is not unusual.

There were two plants in North America making No.4's. Savages are obvious by the big US PROPERTY stamp on the left side wall. Long Branches are just nicer looking, and there is a gap in the sharp edge on the right sidewall so the bolt head can flip up.

All the rest of the No.4's were made in British plants being bombed nightly. (The Pakistan Ordnance Factory being the single exception.) The Brits set standards of performance and delivery, not high standards of polish or consistency of either parts or markings. Scattered subcontractors in little town workshops had contracts to make pins or bands or magazines; the plants assembled the parts.

Simplistically, everyone who had to know, knew what a No.4 rifle was - why waste time and effort stamping it on the side?
 
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