.40 is the New .38

Glock 22 holds 15 rounds?

6 were fired after the reload, before he emptied the rest.

The final 9 were likely redundant (but any after the first 4 hits were likely too.. given enough time).

Even if it was 13 hits (22 less the final 9), that is unlucky placement or one tough dude.
 
Canuck44 said:
If i knew I was going into a real armed conflict my first choice would be a rifle followed by a shotgun. The latter if it was a close encounter of the worst kind. My handgun would only be used only if I had neither of the former
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+1 Since most gunfights occur at close range I'd go straight for the shotgun if available. 00 buck is the equivalent of 9 .33 caliber bullets fired at once.

Handguns are for fun. Shotguns are for work.
 
Consider the following point.

The .40 exists as a result of an event called "The Miami Shootout" where some FBI agents lost a gunfight with some bad bad guys who fought through multiple gunshot wounds.

What came out of the aftermath of this shootout was the belief that the .38 revolvers and 9mm pistols that the FBI agents had were anemic and underpowered.

This led the FBI to make a paradigm shift, and they first adopted a 10mm pistol, then had S&W to develop a new round that became the .40 S&W. There was a ####pile of money and expertise plowed into this effort.

The round was touted as THE solution to the underpowered .38/9mm. 45 lethality in a 9mm style pistol, or so they said.

This story indicates otherwise.

So while this is a statistical abberation, it's no more of a statistical abberation than the Miami Shootout was, and that event was huge.

I think it's evidence that the 40 is a solution to a problem that really never existed, and it's real world stopping power is not significantly better than a 9mm.

I suspect that the 40 was merely an exercise in marketing for gun and ammo companies....much like the new wonder cartridges they introduce for hunters every couple of years.
 
effinggoof said:
Consider the following point.

The .40 exists as a result of an event called "The Miami Shootout" where some FBI agents lost a gunfight with some bad bad guys who fought through multiple gunshot wounds.

What came out of the aftermath of this shootout was the belief that the .38 revolvers and 9mm pistols that the FBI agents had were anemic and underpowered.

This led the FBI to make a paradigm shift, and they first adopted a 10mm pistol, then had S&W to develop a new round that became the .40 S&W. There was a s**tpile of money and expertise plowed into this effort.

The round was touted as THE solution to the underpowered .38/9mm. 45 lethality in a 9mm style pistol, or so they said.

This story indicates otherwise.

So while this is a statistical abberation, it's no more of a statistical abberation than the Miami Shootout was, and that event was huge.

I think it's evidence that the 40 is a solution to a problem that really never existed, and it's real world stopping power is not significantly better than a 9mm.

I suspect that the 40 was merely an exercise in marketing for gun and ammo companies....much like the new wonder cartridges they introduce for hunters every couple of years.
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100% spot on. A lot of BS hype to convince those less informed that a software problem can be solved with a hardware solution....Shot placement is the answer.

TDC
 
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