pete dobinson
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270 and up for elk at long range imo. 150 grain bullet at 3000 fps or close to it. None of this Grendel stuff lol.
400 Yard Elk cartridge . what's your Pick
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Wild_Thing
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Goodness, in this day and age folks are dropping elk at range all day long with Ruger American predator rifles chambered in 6mm CM, adorned with Vortex scopes pushing a 103 gr Hornady ELD-X. I mean I hear about it all day long...
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Agreed. Even the U.S. military smartened up past the poodle shooter legacy cartridges in 5.56 and 6.5. They didn't step up to .277 by accident. They went 6.8x51mm for a reason.
That reason is Russians wearing body armor, that Ukrainians seem to be laying out just fine with 5.56 and 5.45 lol. Bet you half the time its 100 degrees out Ivan takes off his plates and rides into battle on the back of a tank while Joe gets to carry heavy ammo and a heavy rifle to lose a volume of fire contest at close range, OR, lose it at long range to belt feds...but hey.
Funny how everyone who faced those "poodle shooters" couldn't copy them fast enough! Ask Russia and China.
But then that's killing people in wars, and not hunting. Deer don't seem to be running around wearing level 4 SAPI plates that we need new cartridges with stainless steel cases to contain 80,000 PSI to kill. They're chasing their tail and going back to 1920s performance on that one. Interesting. Don't recall anyone ever having problems killing people with 6.5mm either.
Wonder what a "poodle shooter" .223 or 6.5 round would do out of a special metal case to withstand that much pressure?
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Wild_Thing
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Short answer... not enough I guess as they went .277.
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Do people often have to explain humour to you?
They must have found some real magic in that extra .3 of a millimeter! Clearly doing something that a bullet of the same weight and only 4% narrower with better ballistics cannot, and I am sure they totally found that in testing lol.
5.56mm must really suck, which is why Russia immediately went to 5.45x39 and China went to 5.8mm after they started getting shot with it...
Only when they don't have much of a point, TBH.
I doubt you hear it as much as you complain of, and its plenty possible to kill elk with anyway. Not seeing what the issue is aside from "I don't like what people enjoy these days".
When I was out there I had 7mm Dakota built for the foothills. Sighted in the same way with a 140 Nosler Partition & 3.5-10x Lecia. It is a great rifle & bagged me a ton of deer over the years there. Still miss the Rocky Mountain House/ Rimbey area. A lot of good memories and some descent sized elk back then anyhow.
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pete dobinson
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I use a 200 yard zero on my 270, at 300yds its appr 7" low, at 400 it's 19" low. I use a BRH reticle on my Swaro scope, it's quick to use. There's not much compensation for bullet drop out to 400 yds, that for me is my limit and even then things would have to be perfect before taking a shot at that range. Pst 400 yrds bullets really start to drop off. Get closer if you can.
Depends on the cartridge. Some are capable of it, most aren't. - dan
Art Alphin's best 30 cal. Great cartridge, but you needed a large action to house it. - dan
It was joke Joel. Relax. - dan
Lived in both places as an oil patch kid. Both places are on my short list for a retirement home. - dan
He asked a question and he got an answer. But if that was enough to get multiple protests going on I'll make sure to be extra delicate in the future lol
