.404 Jeffery for Angry Squirrels.... Will it Work?

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I am not new to this site, but I need some help. I am an indecisive, neurotic individual with too much time and not enough ambition to go out and try something on my own with out a couple dozen internet pros giving me a thumbs up on a completely obvious decision.
So here I am wondering if my 404 Jeffery double with 400gr Kynoch shells is enough for the large northern gray squirrel. I am really unsure about stopping power on such a agile and dangerous game animal. Has anyone tried this and felt comfortable with such a task? I am absolutely paranoid that I may just have to take a rear presentation shot and I won't break the hip and penetrate into vitals. A angry squirrel is nearly impossible to stop once you have wounded it, and I have seen video on Youtube that shows squirrel charges and maulings. They aren't pretty and I don't want to be the victim of my own poor shooting skills, and shot choices, so in reality can someone just point me in the direction of the perfect rifle and cartridge/bullet combo to take care of the ornery gray squirrel?
And I know that the worlds largest squirrel was shot with a .22lr by a indian lady picking berries or something, but I am not very daring and regularly hunt with my security blanket (I don't go anywhere alone without Blanky.....) present.
Can anyone tell me if I am ok with my current setup? PLS, PLS, PLS..........

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You realize of course, that you need premium bullets when hunting such dangerous game. Regular soft points just won't do. Should you decide to go with FMJ stopper loads, ensure they are of the latest tungsten core design with a large meplate area. Outstanding CGN member and moderator (Foxer ;) ) once commented "...a enraged bull-squirrel is not to be messed with and can be up your pantleg and have your nuts off in seconds" :eek: Heed those wise words and be careful out there. And a steady back up, preferably armed with a .375 Ruger is greatly advised :wave:
 
I have also recently aquired a .600 (20 gauge) Howda pistol, in double barrel format. I did this in case I run out of rifle ammo mid charge. One barrel for the squirrel, and one for me........
 
I suggest a 12g 870 for back-up. Make sure you pull the plug, then load it with the first two round of 00-buck so you have a chance to blind him if he charges - then alternate slug, buck, slug etc. you MAY have enough power.
 
Have you considered optics? I would think a eer scout type set up for fast target aquistion, probaby 4x. Wouldn't want him to get ya before you got a shot away. :runaway: Detachable mounts so if the scope cprapped out you could use iron sights in a survival type situation, also a BFR in 45-70 strapped to your hip would provide sutable back up fire power in the event of a herd of squirrels moving in fast; don't forget the rambo knife in case you have to slit some throats and cut your way out a there! :D
 
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Have you considered optics? I would think a eer scout type set up for fast target aquistion, probaby 4x. Wouldn't want him to get ya before you got a shot away. :runaway: Detachable mounts so if the scope cprapped out you could use iron sights in a survival type situation, also a BFR in 45-70 strapped to your hip would provide sutable back up fire power in the event of a herd of squirrels moving in fast; don't forget the rambo knife in case you have to slit some throats and cut your way out a there! :D
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This is some funny ####te guys...about busted a gut...come on, you know anything less than a .600 Nitro is grossly inadequate...:eek:
 
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on second thought, this squirrel hunting may be too dangerous for you :redface: I could put you in contact with a group 10 yr olds that will work for two bits a tale. The crazy part is, the silly buggers are only armed with cooey's! :eek: But your blankie will stay clean and some poor chillen' will put supper on their families table.:)
 
kimberman said:
on second thought, this squirrel hunting may be too dangerous for you :redface: I could put you in contact with a group 10 yr olds that will work for two bits a tale. The crazy part is, the silly buggers are only armed with cooey's! :eek: But your blankie will stay clean and some poor chillen' will put supper on their families table.:)
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Excuse me, but it is "Blanky" with a "Y". He's French and very sensitive about his name......

And I think I will arm him with a good knife, you know, a great one. I'd hate to leave him unarmed......something like this.....
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That way if I go down, he can defend his poor gentle self......and then take up a career as a Klingon extra in Star Trek movies.
 
rem338win said:
I am not new to this site, but I need some help. I am an indecisive, neurotic individual with too much time and not enough ambition to go out and try something on my own with out a couple dozen internet pros giving me a thumbs up on a completely obvious decision.
So here I am wondering if my 404 Jeffery double with 400gr Kynoch shells is enough for the large northern gray squirrel. I am really unsure about stopping power on such a agile and dangerous game animal. Has anyone tried this and felt comfortable with such a task? I am absolutely paranoid that I may just have to take a rear presentation shot and I won't break the hip and penetrate into vitals. A angry squirrel is nearly impossible to stop once you have wounded it, and I have seen video on Youtube that shows squirrel charges and maulings. They aren't pretty and I don't want to be the victim of my own poor shooting skills, and shot choices, so in reality can someone just point me in the direction of the perfect rifle and cartridge/bullet combo to take care of the ornery gray squirrel?
And I know that the worlds largest squirrel was shot with a .22lr by a indian lady picking berries or something, but I am not very daring and regularly hunt with my security blanket (I don't go anywhere alone without Blanky.....) present.
Can anyone tell me if I am ok with my current setup? PLS, PLS, PLS..........

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You're a braver man than most........God be with you
 
well I shall be very careful before I go out for such a Big Wild Game and make sure to check all the Ballistics of the Ammo.
I hope you return safe after such hunt,Good Luck.
 
"I try not to leave the house much myself, but last time I did I visited the local outdoors store and Jeb was telling stories of a new threat to those who dared to enter the woods. Now I can not say if such things are true, and everyone knows that a normal squirrel is more than enough to ruin someone's day, and for that matter even their life. But could this be true? Has anyone else heard rumours or reports that can confirm this? I just double checked that my doors were locked because I heard scratching noises... there's more, I just heard a pitter-patter across the roof - Oh shiit!!! - Please send help, this may be my last transmission....."


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You fool, you are over gunned...everything that I have read points to the .375 H&H being quite adequate for the North American Grey Squirrel (NAGS), however I have read of rare occasions when uncommonly canny hunters were able to hunt close enough to use .35 whelen's with selected shots...but I stress that they were far and beyond the norm when it comes to stealth, sheer nerve and cunning.
I would suggest that you keep the .404 Jeffery aside for thick skinned dangerous game such as rabbits.

And this must be true, because it is now on the Internet !


On second thought, that .404 Jefferey would do well on the Greater American Grey Squirrel (GAGS), where-as the Whelen would be in its element on the Smaller American Grey Squirrel (SAGS).......I am trying desperately to think of something that works with T!TS (besides gravity).
 
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rem338win said:
I am not new to this site, but I need some help. I am an indecisive, neurotic individual with too much time and not enough ambition to go out and try something on my own with out a couple dozen internet pros giving me a thumbs up on a completely obvious decision.
So here I am wondering if my 404 Jeffery double with 400gr Kynoch shells is enough for the large northern gray squirrel. I am really unsure about stopping power on such a agile and dangerous game animal. Has anyone tried this and felt comfortable with such a task? I am absolutely paranoid that I may just have to take a rear presentation shot and I won't break the hip and penetrate into vitals. A angry squirrel is nearly impossible to stop once you have wounded it, and I have seen video on Youtube that shows squirrel charges and maulings. They aren't pretty and I don't want to be the victim of my own poor shooting skills, and shot choices, so in reality can someone just point me in the direction of the perfect rifle and cartridge/bullet combo to take care of the ornery gray squirrel?
And I know that the worlds largest squirrel was shot with a .22lr by a indian lady picking berries or something, but I am not very daring and regularly hunt with my security blanket (I don't go anywhere alone without Blanky.....) present.
Can anyone tell me if I am ok with my current setup? PLS, PLS, PLS..........

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I wouldn't go after that type of game with anything less than a Barnes TSX bullet in .50 BMG. At a minimum. 25mm HEAT rounds with a fragmenting case would be better. :slap:
 
I don't see 'Ultra-Mag' behind the '404 Jeffrey'. Everyone knows that unless it's an ultra mag, it's nowhere.
 
DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT do it. I must relate to you my personal experience in this matter. I had just aquired a 458 Lott, and was shooting 500 gr Woodleigh's in excess of 2100 fps. Feeling invincible with my newfound powerhouse, I decided I was ready for the squirrel woods. Almost immediatly I sensed something was wrong, and I had made a terrible mistake. Not 20 yards away, crouche4d in the high grass, was a terrible, man eating Large Grey Squirrel. As our eyes met, he charged with blinding speed. I threw the rifle to my shoulder and fired as the sights alinged. The heavy bullet took him square in the chest. Without flinching or wavering, he lept. In vain I tried to draw my 500 S&W, but it was not to be. With terrible savagery, he tore me from stem to stern, killing me instantly, and then set about devouring me on the spot. It was the last time I went squirrel hunting.
 
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