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Klunk said:
why would a gun be on a site called 'gun broker' and not have a price???

anyway...they are close to 2G I think
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Bidding started at $.01
no bids were made, no reserve price (buy it now)
$2000 is pretty unreasonable i think
Thanks guys
 
If you do a google, you will find that the price is $2300. Heaven only knows what the reserve is. Odd that the auction is listed by someone in Virginia.
 
tiriaq said:
If you do a google, you will find that the price is $2300. Heaven only knows what the reserve is. Odd that the auction is listed by someone in Virginia.
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The item is listed on gunbroker by Quack, who if you remember was trying to shill spencer's early works on CGN site after spencer was banned.

For a guy who is banned from here, Spencer's business does seem to get regular exposure from his various groupies.
 
greentips said:
Isn't that the Sten being reclassifed as converted auto?
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When the earlier versions were eventually submitted for inspection, they were ruled to be prohibited, not as CA, but as machineguns, based on the ease with which they could fire bursts. These were the guns being fired in the builder's backyard. Which, apparently, is OK in Saskatchewan.
A revised version has been accepted as restricted.
 
FPembleton said:
That's quite a bit of money for something that was specifically designed to be cheap and easy to manufacture.
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They are cheap and easy to manufacture. Most of the parts are salvaged from scrapped Stens, only the tube and the stripped magazine housing are newly made.
 
Building my SAS-3 Sten cost me about $800-ish, which includes the Douglas match barrel blank I had to buy ($300-ish) of which, I still have almost 19 inches remaining to play with.

So, let's call that $600-ish I think. These open bolt ones would be even cheaper to build since they have less fiddly bits to build.

That said, it took me in the 100+ hour range to construct the Sten. Even factor that at 50% for mass production (and jigs, etc to speed up production) and you're at 50+ hours per gun. One gun per work week. Ish.

If you're a skilled machinist, and you have a shop to pay for, what are you going to have to charge to keep yourself afloat? Let's say a cheap rate of $20 an hour? That's just about $1000 per gun to build them. PLUS the $600 in parts/materiel.

So, $1600, plus whatever you can milk for profit.

Not to mention the fact that you're building about 4 guns a month at that pace? Hmmmmm.....I don't question his price, I just question the guns. Hopefully the builder isn't using full width sear trip slots anymore.

NS

(Oh, and as a gun-manufacturer....hopefully you have some sort of liability insurance to be able to cover an accident....and the attendant lawsuit.)
 
The only new made parts are the tube and the two pieces which are welded together to make the mag. housing. The builder reports it takes him less than half a day to make the housing. How long to make a tube? An hour with a milling machine? Doubt that it takes more than a day and a half to turn one out, including the time for the Duplicolour spray paint to dry.
You made the entire bolt assembly. These guns use an original bolt with a plug added to the back end to keep the screw which retains the cocking handle from being removed. (Bolt is not removable from the gun).
It has been reported on CGN that the builder acquired three pallets of Sten parts from Greece. Doubt that his cost for parts is anything like yours.
 
I'm far from an expert but that looks like a horrible welding job on that firearm.
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You ever see a real Sten? Not exactly works of art they are.

These guns use an original bolt with a plug added to the back end to keep the screw which retains the cocking handle from being removed. (Bolt is not removable from the gun).
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What happens when your $2300 Sten blows its extractor or the firing pin wears down or the sear cut is damaged? Kind of hard to fix those without removing the bolt.
 
Suputin said:
....What happens when your $2300 Sten blows its extractor or the firing pin wears down or the sear cut is damaged? Kind of hard to fix those without removing the bolt.
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I suppose that it would have to go back to the manufacturer for repairs. Taking it apart yourself could be considered trying to defeat the semi auto conversion. The trigger mechanism cover is also not readily removable.
 
The bolt is made " not easily removable" by a screw through the cocking handle. It's normal procedure to remove the bolt to clean the gun. There is nothing illegal about cleaning your gun or removing the trigger mechanism cover.
 
czechitout said:
The bolt is made " not easily removable" by a screw through the cocking handle. It's normal procedure to remove the bolt to clean the gun. There is nothing illegal about cleaning your gun or removing the trigger mechanism cover.
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So if I cut some welds on a DEWAT cuz its rusting inside....?....thats OK?
 
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