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A 28 is night and day compared with a 410. I'll take a 28 over a 410 any day!
.410 advice for skeet
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A 28 is night and day compared with a 410. I'll take a 28 over a 410 any day!
28 gauge is considerably more gun than a .410... my scores with 20 and 28 gauge are pretty much identical and those are only one clay behind my 12 gauge scores on average... when I am on, it doesn't matter if I am shooting 12 or 28.
.410's are a bucket of fun to shoot..... But I wouldn't even think about shooting a round of skeet with one...... Just not up to the task......
I try to save my frustrations for the golf course where I can do stupid things and miss by a mile even with the best of tools..... Lol
I try to save my frustrations for the golf course where I can do stupid things and miss by a mile even with the best of tools..... Lol
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Personally the only thing I have ever found more challenging about sporting clays vs skeet is the price. The local range here is $60/100 sporting clays targets. Skeet is $20/100. I can only imagine what registered sporting clays must cost?!!
Yildiz, Webley & Scott, and the Stevens 555 are all basically the same gun.
Different stocks, and accessories though. I had the Webly & Scott version, and it was a nice gun, used it for skeet and it worked well. It is very light though, and getting extra choke tubes for it is difficult.
More, but the payouts and larger.
Most of the costs for registered competitive Skeet or Sporting Clays goes in Hotels, Meals, Gas or Airfare. That's what kills you. Plus an entire weekend put aside..
That is what keeps me from shooting sporting clays as much as I would like. So I settle for shooting doubles skeet with sub gauge guns. I get more satisfaction out of a clean round of doubles than I do from 50 straight at regular skeet. To make it more fun, I shoot two pairs at station four, high first for the first pair, then low first for the second pair.
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Registered skeet is piss-poor payout that is for sure. From what I saw the two seasons I participated the big concern was handing out lots of $5 medals, pins and trinkets. Registered skeet shooters seem to be attracted to shiny objects much like a bushy tailed wood rat!
Registered trap on the other hand can pay quite well, enough to cover your season at times!
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As always, you have to consider the level of commitment and the cost of ammo with respect to the initial price of the gun.
Using 410 in skeet is considered and expert shooter's game. It is difficult and needs a lot of practice. So if you want to be hitting 23 or better out of 25, then you will probably need to shoot around 5000 rounds for starters. Most likely 10,000 rounds.
Now, a flat of 410 factory is around $100 to $125 CDN. If you don't reload, 5000 rounds will cost about $ 2000 to $2500. If you reload, then this goes down considerably to around $1000 to $1200. This is every year at least. So over a few years, if you are even moderately serious, the ammo will run $3000 at a minimum, plus the price of the birds.
The point is, the cost of the gun is probably not as important as the quality of the gun and fit and ease of use.
I personally like a beretta o/u but the little sucker (very sweet little firearm) is around $2700. But over a 5 year period, it is not much compared to the price of the ammo. And remember, you can resell the gun after a few years for about 60 to 70 percent of the original price, so your gun cost is not as much as it would appear.
Using 410 in skeet is considered and expert shooter's game. It is difficult and needs a lot of practice. So if you want to be hitting 23 or better out of 25, then you will probably need to shoot around 5000 rounds for starters. Most likely 10,000 rounds.
Now, a flat of 410 factory is around $100 to $125 CDN. If you don't reload, 5000 rounds will cost about $ 2000 to $2500. If you reload, then this goes down considerably to around $1000 to $1200. This is every year at least. So over a few years, if you are even moderately serious, the ammo will run $3000 at a minimum, plus the price of the birds.
The point is, the cost of the gun is probably not as important as the quality of the gun and fit and ease of use.
I personally like a beretta o/u but the little sucker (very sweet little firearm) is around $2700. But over a 5 year period, it is not much compared to the price of the ammo. And remember, you can resell the gun after a few years for about 60 to 70 percent of the original price, so your gun cost is not as much as it would appear.
I use data for Winchester HS hulls for loading Challanger 410 hulls. Seems to work well for me and some other guys I shoot skeet with.
Of course use at your own risk applies as I can't provide an official pressure tested reference for the load.
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Swapping components in any of the small gauges is a recipe for disaster and is highly discouraged.
If the OP logs into the Hodgdon load data site he will find loads for the Cheddite Hull, and Challanger uses the Cheddite Hull to assemble there ammo.
I ended up buying a grabber and using the cheddite hull I'm loading 13.1 gr of lil'gun and using the SP410S wad and cheddite 209 primer.
Im using the max load because the factory pressures of the challenger hauls reset the trigger on my DT-10 90% of the time. so i figure with the 11,800 PSI i won't have a problem.
Im using the max load because the factory pressures of the challenger hauls reset the trigger on my DT-10 90% of the time. so i figure with the 11,800 PSI i won't have a problem.
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In case you missed it he purchased a set of tubes for his Dt-10 which happens to be a Beretta O/U not an auto.
