.410 AR-15 Shotgun...
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How exactly is it a "stolen" idea? Not even close to the same gun......I guess my AR was a rippoff from my .223 742? Saiga was based on an AK, the one in the vid is AR based. The ONLY thing they have in common is that they both shoot .410 .
stolen idea - shotgun on the base of the assault rifle 
Saiga is a pattern of AK, so it`s better
it was chambered in .410,20 and 12GA....
link: 12GA http://www.saiga-12.com/
.410 http://club.guns.ru/eng/saiga410.html
Saiga is a pattern of AK, so it`s better
it was chambered in .410,20 and 12GA....
link: 12GA http://www.saiga-12.com/
.410 http://club.guns.ru/eng/saiga410.html
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We're well aware of the Saiga shotguns.
Saying that it's a stolen idea because of calibre is just silly. Is a Glock 17 a copy of a Beretta 92 because they're both in 9mm? Hardly.
And, on a more interesting note, the Saiga is prohibited. A .410 AR15, on the other hand, would be restricted.
Saying that it's a stolen idea because of calibre is just silly. Is a Glock 17 a copy of a Beretta 92 because they're both in 9mm? Hardly.
And, on a more interesting note, the Saiga is prohibited. A .410 AR15, on the other hand, would be restricted.
pilgrim said:stolen idea - shotgun on the base of the assault rifle
Saiga is a pattern of AK, so it`s better
it was chambered in .410,20 and 12GA....
link: 12GA http://www.saiga-12.com/
.410 http://club.guns.ru/eng/saiga410.html
Those look like AK derivatives to me.
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didn't the americans play with a 12 gauge along the same idea?
I thought the prototypes were based on m16s?
still pretty cool though
I thought the prototypes were based on m16s?
still pretty cool though
shortandlong said:
Isn't that AA-12? It's supposed to be improved designed from Atchinson design from early 1980. There was a segment about it in the episode of Future War. Looks interesting. I wonder if it would make to Canada, sort of like Valtro PM-5. Nah....
imagine_74714 said:
these are two absolutely different assault rifles, two different classes....
AK is better because it`s AK, AR is better because it`s AR.....
this is a wrong forum to argue about them
everything I want`t to say, that the AR shotgun version is a stolen idea...it`s not new and been around for at least 15years....
I had Saiga-410 for 7years and shot about 1000rounds of .410 3".....bigdawg said:
no issues found, no misfires, no jams....the only problem was with new Russian made sabots(was not cycling - not enough powder), but it was new round for Russian at that time, so it was not a big deal, we used Italian ammo.....
