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Read in an old lymans manual- 44th i think- that IMR 4227could be used in the .410. is this info still viable, or did a bunch of .410 blow up and that why you never hear of it? i have the data, just wondering if it`s safe. my dad has about 1000 empty shells and wants to reload them. and having not seen a .410 shell, do they take the same primers as other guages?
 
Unless they're very old hulls, they use the same primers as other shotgun gauges. If you follow the recipe exactly, it probably won't blow up. I've read other threads about using 4227, but most guys recommend H110/win296.

If you're wondering about the safety of it, just reduce the loads by 10-15% and try them before loading more.

Do you have a press or lee loader or something?
 
I use H110.

If he's collected plastic wads from ages past make sure they aren't brittle before loading them. I had some exceptionally old 20ga wads from an older gentleman who got out of reloading for shotguns but they were so old they would crack and crumble when squeezed in my fingers. My guess would be they would produce some very erratic patterns but I never tried any.
 
Shotgun wads can be hard to find, but i dont think it would be a great idea to reuse old wads. Search around, watch the EE for supplies. The value of reloading is cost savings and custom loads for your firearm, that may be unavailable otherwise. The true cost of factory ammo vs reloads would be a ruined hunt/memory or damaged firearm.
 
I use 4227 in remington hulls and it works great. Remember with shotgun loading you need to find a recipe that matches all your components, no mixing and matching.
 
I use 296 as well. I only load the 3 inch Winchester shells. The press can damage a few hulls to get it set properly so I don't like to change it around. I can get over 15 loads per hull at about 14 cents each. The primers are regular shotshell primers as you use in 12 and 20 gauge.


 
fiddler said:
I use 296 as well. I only load the 3 inch Winchester shells. The press can damage a few hulls to get it set properly so I don't like to change it around. I can get over 15 loads per hull at about 14 cents each. The primers are regular shotshell primers as you use in 12 and 20 gauge.


Ahh now I can see why you keep saying so many reloads and such a cheap price. Your components and hulls are at least 20 years old . Yes they are new but old stock so I assume that is where you get your prices. Unfortunately
you cannot do that with todays pricing of 410 components The hulls you show were also the best of quality back then
Been a long time since I was supplied 296 powder in a can or winchester 209 primers in that box.State side you still run into those boxed primers but not up here
Today you pay 25 -30 cents just for a 1X 3" 410 hulls if you can find them and they are not the quality of those old compression formed and you are doing well if you can reload a 2 1/2 for 25 cents each . Normally with powder prices the way they increased in the past 2 years it will be even more if someone was just starting out
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3macs1 said:
Today you pay 25 -30 cents just for a 1X 3" 410 hulls if you can find them and they are not the quality of those old compression formed and you are doing well if you can reload a 2 1/2 for 25 cents each .


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I've never actually bought hulls. I cycle a few new boxes of shells into the system every year and don't count them as a cost, but even with rifle loading I gather good brass from buying commercial bullets and don't start loading until I have ample supply of fired brass. The new Winchester hulls do not last as many reloads as the older ones but you can still count on ten or more loads unless you max them out with pressure. If you watch the gun shows you can get components cheaper than shelf prices at larger stores. Like anything, if you want it right now, you pay premium price.
 
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