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I'm looking to possibly get a .410 shotgun for this fall. About the only hunting I do is hunting grouse and huns in the fall. I'm sick of using my .22 for it and want to get a .410 like my father-in-law uses. I'd like to get a side-by-side or over-under if possible and my budget is about $550. I found a Stoeger SXS for about $460, but not sure if they are a decent gun or not. Will likely get used only for hunting and a tiny bit of clay shooting to get me in shape for the fall. If any one knows something else that will fit the bill, let me know.
 
You will not find many .410 SxS's for under $500.00, except for guns like the Stoeger or Baikal. Even decent used .410 doubles go for over $500.00 unless maybe it's an older Stevens or a low end Spanish import. Plus, one doesn't see that many used .410 doubles come up for sale.
 
Stoeger and Baikal might be the only new guns you'll find in that range. I haven't even seen a Baikal double kicking around the local haunts, quite a few Stoeger though. Guys who can accept the fact that it's a cheaper gun seem for the most part happy with their purchase. I'd give Tradeex a browse first though, they seem to have a fairly large selection of inexpensive used SxS in stock, not sure if there's a 410 in there currently or not. Keep your eyes peeled for a 28 while you're looking as well, a little extra shot never hurt and they won't pound your shoulder either.
I wound up with a neat little hammerless single shot 410 by Yildiz last fall. It's my new favorite partridge wandering gun, light plus it folds in half for storage.
Cheers and good luck!
 
gunsaholic said:
You will not find many .410 SxS's for under $500.00, except for guns like the Stoeger or Baikal. Even decent used .410 doubles go for over $500.00 unless maybe it's an older Stevens or a low end Spanish import. Plus, one doesn't see that many used .410 doubles come up for sale.
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Agree. I even sold a minty stevens 311 on here for 450 and it didnot last 1 hour on the ee
 
I have that exact gun. Perfect for grouse, its just not a gun meant to inspire envy at the skeet club. A partridge and bunny gun for the quad, not a good wingshot choice. Definitely a step up from a old 410 single. Mine is a Stoeger uplander choked full/mod.

I had a Stoeger o/u 12 ga years ago. The principal fault i have with these is the weak blueing. One duck hunt and it rusted, needed a lot of elbow grease. The other issue one sees online about these is single triggers. They are a budget gun and there have been problems with the mechs for the single triggers. So get one with double triggers.

I really like mine.
 
If you get a chance at a 20 ga. sxs for a decent price take it. More versatile than a 410.
 
Yes, I agree that a wiser choice would be a 20 gauge and use light loads for grouse. Shells are much cheaper than the .410 and selection much better. I would even consider a 28 gauge although shells aren't cheap for them either. It does give you a better payload though.
20 gauge SxS's are also a bit easier to find on the used market. However, if your heart is set on the .410, you will really have to watch and be prepared to act quick if you look for a used one.
 
Not really set on a SXS or .410, just looking for something light and handy to carry in the field. I thought of SXS and O/U due to the second shot. My father-in-law has a CIL .410 single shot, that is a nice gun too. Looked at the Mossberg pump in .410, but woulf prefer the lines of a SXS or O/U better.
 
Since you are not set on the .410 ,but like the lines of a SxS (can't blame you) keep your eyes open for a used 20 gauge. They come up every so often. I picked up a dandy 20 gauge sidelock off the EE last fall. It was $500.00 shipped. I got it for my daughter to use.
There are some nice light weight 20 doubles out there that are great for upland hunting.
 
I had a Boito .410 coachgun that was a great little gun for heavy cover. I bought a new savage milano .410 o/u for $850 at canadian tire
 
An El Faisan just left for the moose camp yesterday.
Took the offer of $225.
I had a .410 311H posted here in the EE last fall and it got gobbled up pretty quick too.
This year it will be 28 or 20 gauge.
Got the A-5 20 singing sweet now, so she could be the new gal on board.
Can't believe how light they are compared to the 12 gauge light I own.
 
My first grousse was taken with my el faisan and 15 years later I still use it for dense areas and close shots. A 20 gauge would fit a more all around role but I still love my little .410.
 
Am I the only one who thinks that "dense areas" and .410 dont mix? After watching more then one grouse shot through some brush at ~10 meters fly away with nary a scratch I refuse to shoot if theres so much as a blade of grass between me and the bird. More pellets and more powder is a FAR better alternative in "dense bush".

A 20g is the ideal upland bird gun. 410s are far too limited in pellet count to be of much use. I will not shoot a grouse with my 410 (Cooey, single shot with full choke) beyond 15m under any circumstance.
 
Last season I switched to a 16 ga sxs from a Savage 22/410 which had been my shotgun of choice for many years for chickens. One reason was the dense bush in my hunting area. I now take shots that were simply passed up before because over the years experience had taught me the bird would not be knocked down. Or worse, crippled but lost. That little Savage is still my favourite but not practical for my area.
 
Sounds like the same conversation my father and I have every fall. I land out his place, pull my 12ga out to go chase some birds, he shakes his head and reminds me a Cape Bretoner only has 3 guns in his cabinet, a 30WCF for Deer, a .22lr for Rabbits and a .410 for birds. So to keep him happy, twice a year I carry his old El Faisan .410 SXS and bring home a bird with it and I don't hear another word on the subject until the next year. On the other hand, all the years hunting with him, I never saw him miss a bird on the wing with that gun, I even took a double with it last fall. He may be on to something. Oh well, I still have to get a couple of seasons out of this new Baikal IJ-58M I just got before I should review this topic again. Gotta give Dad something to complain about once in a while.
 
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When I was 12 years old I was given a Savage .410 pump for my birthday (still have it). I learned to shoot with the gun and I could shoot very well with it, anything from pasture clays to ducks (close) to grouse. Fast foreward to now. I don't know if it's because ,for many years , I have used larger gauges with bigger payloads, or because I'm older or have just become a lousy shot but if I take it out now I can't hit diddly-squat with it. (maybe the barrel got bent sitting in the safe).
 
gunsaholic said:
When I was 12 years old I was given a Savage .410 pump for my birthday (still have it). I learned to shoot with the gun and I could shoot very well with it, anything from pasture clays to ducks (close) to grouse. Fast foreward to now. I don't know if it's because ,for many years , I have used larger gauges with bigger payloads, or because I'm older or have just become a lousy shot but if I take it out now I can't hit diddly-squat with it. (maybe the barrel got bent sitting in the safe).
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Maybe you're only remembering the positives?

I too learned to shoot with a .410, and once I acquired a 20g, instantly figured out it was better in every single way imaginable as an upland bird gun.
 
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