416 Hush Puppy

AK said:
Geez what's with all the hate? Conceptually no different than a .300 Blackout which every operator wannabe is jumping all over these days. When you're dealing with subsonic velocities, you want to be throwing the heaviest bullet you can to maximize energy. This round appears to do that.

However...


In your first post you said it has a flat trajectory. So which is it?
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Well there is a key difference, or two.

The .300 BLK uses a standard AR 5.56 bolt.
This abomination will use a 7.62x39 bolt, which are both harder to find, but more importantly, prone to breaking due to the wider base of the cartridge requiring less material be used on the bolt.
Also, not sure of the mag this will use, but if it's not a standard AR mag like the .300 BLK, then that's another major difference.

And lastly, AAC never claimed the .300 BLK has a "flat" trajectory.
 
Benito said:
This abomination will use a 7.62x39 bolt............
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Hmmmm interesting...........because I just got one of those for one of my savage rifles.........which also happens to work well with the 6.8 spc......whats another reamer and barrel...............
 
Benito said:
This abomination will use a 7.62x39 bolt, which are both harder to find, but more importantly, prone to breaking due to the wider base of the cartridge requiring less material be used on the bolt.
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So does the .50 Beowulf which the case is based on. That doesn't seem to have dampened any interest in that caliber, nor ARs chambered in 7.62.

Benito said:
Also, not sure of the mag this will use, but if it's not a standard AR mag like the .300 BLK, then that's another major difference.
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States right in the first post it uses 5.56 AR mags...

Benito said:
And lastly, AAC never claimed the .300 BLK has a "flat" trajectory.
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Non sequitur. Who mentioned trajectory of .300 BLK as being flat??
 
I can see this round being used in a SBR bolt gun very easily. Not that we have to worry about this but an Octane .45 ACP compatible supressor and say 11" of barrel length would definitely make this a heavy hitter. It's too bad the case doesn't use a standard .375" bolt diameter though.
 
So it uses some of the most expensive brass and most expensive bullets that are also not easily sourced.....great combination there.
 
mg4201 said:
I think this would make a fine hog round. I certainly wouldn't want to be hit with one.
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A 450 gr slug traveling at 1000-1100 fps, yeah neither would I! That's nearly double the weight of a .45 ACP and certainly faster. Plenty of stopping power available. A tuned load out of a 16" barrel would be easy on the ears too even unsuppressed.

I was curious about .300 BLK but this round has me interested enough to actually get into it. Something about the proportions that look fun to toy with!
 
AK said:
A 450 gr slug traveling at 1000-1100 fps, yeah neither would I! That's nearly double the weight of a .45 ACP and certainly faster. Plenty of stopping power available. A tuned load out of a 16" barrel would be easy on the ears too even unsuppressed.

I was curious about .300 BLK but this round has me interested enough to actually get into it. Something about the proportions that look fun to toy with!
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Start with the .300 BLK and get your feet wet with that to see if you like the concept first. It'll get real old FAST shooting $50/100 bullets down range at subsonic speeds. Or, if you like the idea of shooting big honking bullets at subsonic velocities build yourself a .45ACP single shot bolt action and shoot .45LC bullets from it. At least you'd be able to accomplish it affordably.
 
2bad4u2 said:
Start with the .300 BLK and get your feet wet with that to see if you like the concept first. It'll get real old FAST shooting $50/100 bullets down range at subsonic speeds. Or, if you like the idea of shooting big honking bullets at subsonic velocities build yourself a .45ACP single shot bolt action and shoot .45LC bullets from it. At least you'd be able to accomplish it affordably.
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I have used big 45lc bullets in my 1911. over a light powder charge 3.8gr clays. they hit like a train. They also make IPSC major. This 416 hush puppy has some potential I think. This round might have some close range military applications as well. Somebody here (yeah I am looking at you Suputin) should try these with a suppressor just for research purposes of course.
 
^^^ yup! 250 gr. Lead bullets are going to put a hurt on something when they connect.
 
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mg4201 said:
I have used big 45lc bullets in my 1911. over a light powder charge 3.8gr clays. they hit like a train. They also make IPSC major. This 416 hush puppy has some potential I think. This round might have some close range military applications as well. Somebody here (yeah I am looking at you Suputin) should try these with a suppressor just for research purposes of course.
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Tell you what, you build the rifle and send it to me and I'll build a can and test it.
 
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