416 Weatherby Magnum

I know a couple of guys on AR have built 416 Rugers, not sure how they compare to the 416 Remington.

The only reason the 375 H&H is still around is because no major player in the firearms/ammunition business offered an alternative in 375 , except Weatherby, and Weatherby prices itself out of most markets.

The 300 H&H (and to a certain degree the 300 Weatherby) was put out of business once the 300 Winchester showed up. :)

Anyway, the 416 Weatherby is near the bottom of my list of desirable .416 cartridges. I'd far prefer a .416 Ruger, .416 Remington or Rigby. I don't see how the added cost/pressure/recoil of the Weatherby improves anything.
 
Gatehouse said:
I know a couple of guys on AR have built 416 Rugers, not sure how they compare to the 416 Remington.

The only reason the 375 H&H is still around is because no major player in the firearms/ammunition business offered an alternative in 375 , except Weatherby, and Weatherby prices itself out of most markets.

The 300 H&H (and to a certain degree the 300 Weatherby) was put out of business once the 300 Winchester showed up. :)

Anyway, the 416 Weatherby is near the bottom of my list of desirable .416 cartridges. I'd far prefer a .416 Ruger, .416 Remington or Rigby. I don't see how the added cost/pressure/recoil of the Weatherby improves anything.
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There are people that believe the original .375Wby was the ultimate .375 caliber, but then Weatherby did a typically stupid thing and decided it was not fast enough or powerful enough and phased it out to produce the ridiculous .378Wby and an excellent caliber got dropped because of their idiot decision to market the .378Wby. instead of the .375Wby. :slap:
 
Demonical said:
There are people that believe the original .375Wby was the ultimate .375 caliber, but then Weatherby did a typically stupid thing and decided it was not fast enough or powerful enough and phased it out to produce the ridiculous .378Wby and an excellent caliber got dropped because of their idiot decision to market the .378Wby. instead of the .375Wby. :slap:
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The 375 Weatherby is a great cartridge, and I was going to have one built unitl the Ruger was announced.

That's the biggest problem with many Weatherby cartridges- Just too much of a good thing...The 375 Weatherby would have taken over form the H&H if given a chance.
 
Gatehouse said:
The 375 Weatherby is a great cartridge, and I was going to have one built unitl the Ruger was announced.

That's the biggest problem with many Weatherby cartridges- Just too much of a good thing...The 375 Weatherby would have taken over form the H&H if given a chance.
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It might have. Of course the .375R has no chance of unseating the venerable .375H&H. :)
 
I love my .300H&H. :)

I damn near bought a M-70 .300WSM a few years ago. It was some kind of deluxe RMEF of something version; stainless barrel and action. A gorgeous rifle, the only reason I passed on it was due to the price at the time, was too much.
A year later Winchester discontinued the M-70 and I have been kicking my self for not buying it, but I should say it was not the .300WSM caliber that interested my, it was just a gorgeous rifle.
I could over-look the aemenic .300WSM in such a nice rifle. ;)
 
To be honest, even the 375 WBY has too much recoil to unseat the H&H. I had an Ackley for a while and while its not a 378 the extra 10 grs. of powder makes it a nasty kicker. If you need more than the H&H or the new king you need bigger bullets (,40+)
 
Just for the record, the 378 is the ultimate long range big animal gun. The only problem is that without a brake you can't shoot it from field positions. You can't shoot off hand at long range and you can't or at least shouldn't shoot it prone. Probably be good for mowing stuff down from under 200 yds. though. Plus you can't help but grin when you pull one of those little missles out of the ammo box.
 
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