.416R on rack or wait for .458WM?

Get the 458, brass will be much easier to find and it can be loaded up or down. Plenty of cast or 45-70 bullets for plinking.

You hunting unicorns or just getting a moose LEH every 10-15 years?

Don't forget, David Thompson may or may not have seen mammoth tracks in the Rockies.
 
Woolly Mammoths? Yes quite possible to see...by ingesting certain types of shrooms that grow in the BC Interior. ;)

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I would suggest loading the Rigby down a bit as there is a lot of room in that case and one does not require max loads (and the recoil goes up exponentialy).
I have one in the CZ Bavarian stock style with a 1-4 USO (old eyes). I like it a lot.
Used it in Africa a couple of times.
I loaded it with 400 gr TSX at I believe 2300 ft/s...... each of those bullets would whistle clean through a kudu type critter at 100-150 yds and keep on trucking into the African sunset while the kudu just looked around and trotted off.
I had brought it as a backup to my double rifle in buff hunting and I think the TSX would be great for that.
But overall, for almost all purposes I think a Partition or Woodleigh would be a much better choice for bruins or other soft skin animals. It has abundant power and range with spitzer type bullets.
 
As opposed to Mastodon teeth -

"Mammoths had ridged molars that allowed them to cut through vegetation, similar to modern-day elephants. ... Mastodons — literally, "nipple tooth" — had cone-shaped cusps on their molars, similar to those of a pig. This allowed them to crush twigs, leaves and branches..."

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Mammoth_vs_Mastodon
 
For a reduced load, I can load the Hornday 400gr RN at 1800 fps MV in my 416 Rem. Mag. using Reloder7 with very good accuracy.

Have been using 416 caliber 300gr or 350gr X bullets on Moose, Elk, Deer and Bighorn Sheep always with excellent results. Nailed this one with my 416 RM using a 350gr TTSX at an impact speed of about 2300 fps. One shot DRT.

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medvedqc said:
rsm is an unknown beauty but the lack of reversed handle was a no for me ...

zastava are not for sure an rsm but not that bad ... at least for me.

we all know a 458 in the stable, do not know for the 416s ...
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Imagine if someone had just taken the time to tie your arm behind your back and hit your knuckles with a ruler when you were younger...the world of firearms would be so much more open to you!
 
Dogleg said:
I got my .416 Rigby as a step up from the .375; trouble is I've never been convinced that it killed one bit better. Did some
buffalo hunting and shot a couple elephants with it but the only gain I'll swear to was in recoil. That it delivered.

Somewhat later I started down the .458 trail. Never looked back. Never had to wonder whether I was getting kicked for
nothing either. :)
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But you shoot the "extra-long" version. It behaves much differently than it's little brother.

Remember "Twins" with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito?

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BigUglyMan said:
But you shoot the "extra-long" version. It behaves much differently than it's little brother.

Remember "Twins" with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito?

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I ended up with the .458 Long, but have a lot more field experience with the short. Got the 450 A-Frames rockin' along at 2350 fps, which I was entirely happy with except that the super compressed loads of A2230 would eventually push the bullets out again. The Lott is easy to live with with the extra room.
 
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