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I have a marble gamegetter and I would like to have reloads similar to the ancient 44 gamegetter ( 215g roundball 429" )

Anybody knows where to get some new ammo, if still available true reloaders or component to roll my own.

Any reloading data that you may have would be appreciated.

P.S. I don't want to hot rod my gun, charge could be made from blackpowder substitute to keep pressure down should be ok.

thank you.
 
gamegetter

I have the newer model, and someone along the line reamed the chamber to fit modern length 410 shells. Have used shot and slugs with good accuracy. I did purchase 410 brass hulls to reload originally with the shorter length.

I do not know what yours is rated for, but it will list the acceptable loads on the barrel. I know SOME said 44 gamegetter/410. If this is the case for yours, have the chamber measured for length of cartridge and reload 410. I think originally, 410 shells were 1/4 inch shorter?
YKD
 
Yes mine is marked 44 gamegetter/410 2'' 1/2 shell and I think it was .427 inch bore instead of .429 as stated above.

The first owner shot 44-40 regular ammo in it but I think the 44 gamegetter should fire better in it...

But I may be wrong, one thing is for sure it would be milder in this gun.

What do you think?
 
My lower barrel is not rifled..... so I have used rifled slugs in it. I saw a single 44 gamegetter round in an obsolete ammo bin at a gun show once...... looked like a round nosed bullet in a cartridge, and really struck me as being quite low velocity. I know of at least 4 other gamegetter owners on the board; hopefully they will chime in.
 
the original rounds were 44-40 shells with a round ball crimped in place . There were also shot shells available and the early ones had the end of the shell crimped into a tapered cone. Unless I am mistaken these shotshells were longer than the regular rifle shells. I have several of the ball cartridges and can't remember if I have any shot shells

cheers mooncoon
 
The 44 gamegetter used brass shot shells.
The 410/22 uses 410 shot shells,Short ones
You can get euro ammo in this size , very mild ( France, I think)
I have cut down lite 410 rounds for mine .
they are two different guns.
44 gamegetter is not 44/40.
 
Thank you guys.

I will attemp to contact Marbles, I know that they bringning back the gamegetter this year. New legal one!

Maybe with the serial number they will tell me what is to be fire in my gun.
 
I have a marble gamegetter and I would like to have reloads similar to the ancient 44 gamegetter ( 215g roundball 429" )

Anybody knows where to get some new ammo, if still available true reloaders or component to roll my own.

Any reloading data that you may have would be appreciated.

P.S. I don't want to hot rod my gun, charge could be made from blackpowder substitute to keep pressure down should be ok.

thank you.

a .440 lead round ball weighs around 140 grains.
a 215 grain 44-40 bullet, (.429) is in fact a bullet, not a ball.
 
Yes you are right, but the original 44 gamegetter was .427 round ball
215 grains with a charge of 34 grain of blackpowder that is the load I was inquiring about. I am not equip to reload 44-40 so I was asking other members if they did it or knew a place that sell it.

I was even thinking of buying .44 plastic cup for reloading shotshell and using it instead of 410 guage if the chamber is to tight. I have to ask first.
 
Yes you are right, but the original 44 gamegetter was .427 round ball
215 grains with a charge of 34 grain of blackpowder that is the load I was inquiring about. I am not equip to reload 44-40 so I was asking other members if they did it or knew a place that sell it.

I was even thinking of buying .44 plastic cup for reloading shotshell and using it instead of 410 guage if the chamber is to tight. I have to ask first.
A 45-70 sized round ball of lead (.458) is only about 170 grains.
What I'm saying is you'd best check your sources, something is amiss.
I'm not familiar with the rifle, or cartridge at all, but I do reload 44-40. 215 grains was one of the standard bullets for it. As was the 200, and the 205
A 200 grain .427 bullet:
427666.jpg

Note, a round ball of the size .427 will not weigh even 200 grains

Dies for the 44-40, in the original Lee hammer operated kit are incredibly cheap, and require no high cost extras to produce usable ammunition.
All you need to add are the components themselves.
You can then load a 427 round ball, whatever it weighs, or load a conical, and get some accuracy
leeloader.jpg

Sadly, I no longer see 44-40 in the listings for these sets on the website, however, they do exist. Probably wouldn't take too many gun shows to fins one. or even here on our EE.
Nothing stopping you from going into reloading on the cheap. Lee's hand press kit is also inexpensive, and will allow you to branch out into other reloading if you get the bug, and most gunnuts do.
It's available from many of the site sponsors.
 
Thank you John Y Cannuck.

The info on the roundball .44 gamegetter came from "Cartridge of the world"

I will verify but I think that is exactly what they wrote... and that's why I double check :)

So I will be on the lookout for a Lee kit at those price, even if I make only one or two batches, it will have paid for itself.

Thank you all and if you have anymore info..please keep them comming

Always a pleasure to learn.
 
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Ok I made verification," Cartridge of the world" 10th edition

115 gr roundball....

My mistake, thank you for setting me right :)
 
I've got a friend who loads 44 shot for the old smoothbore 44 shotguns. A 303 British case can be trimmed and is very inexpensive to work with. You shouldn't have any trouble loading for it with the above lee dies. I don't even use dies in some of my oddball loadings. I just place a hard wad above the powder, add a little bp lube then place a ball into the case, seated well onto the wad. I use candlewax dripped in to seal the ball in place and waterproof things, but there are lots of other recommendations on here. I am assuming the .44 roundball gamegetter load was also BP?
 
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