44 Magnum primers

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Picked up a model 94 in 44 mag today. I was wondering, does anyone load the 44 for rifle and what primers do you use. I will be loading Hornady 240gr. XTP's and H110 or IMR4227. Any suggestions for my venture? Most manuals recommend large pistol magnum.
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I use regular large pistol primers. Works fine for the powders I have tried. I typically use Unique or Universal Clays for my 44 magnum loads but have also used faster powders also.

I'm not familiar with the powders you indicated so I don't know if you need or should be using magnum primers.
 
you only need the magnum pistol primers with the heaviest loads -the heavy bullets with slow powder , like ww296, h110 , and imr 4227- if you use standard 240 grain with something like 231 the standard large primer will do to light the charge- other than that , it's a waste of money- my mag primers typically cost 3 bucks more per thou than standard
 
Win LP Primers are actually hot enough that they're not even making LP Magnum primers, so you could actually go with those, even with the H110. For any other primer brand, I'd highly reccomend going magnum.
 
I tried 10 each of CCI Magnum and Non-Magnum primers with three different powders (10 grs Unique, 15 grs Blue Dot, and 25 grs Lil'Gun) behind a 240gr cast bullet and found no difference in velocity or accuracy.
 
I use H110 in large doses for 290 and 325 gr. cast bullets and always use R-p 2 1/2 Large pistol primers, as i do for many of my smaller rifle cartridges.
 
I agree on that - I would try a magnum primer with any spherical powder like H110, which are known to be a bit more difficult to ignite cleanly.
 
Most manuals recommend magnum primers and a heavy crimp with ball type powders like H110, Win 748, AA No. 9, etc. They are supposed to give you more consistant ignition than regular large pistol primers.
 
257Roberts said:
Has anyone tried large rifle primers in the 44 when used in a rifle?
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I believe that large rifle primers require a deeper primer pocket than what a large pistol primer case like the 44 Mag has so you would not be able to seat them below the base of case.
 
I measured some cases last night and I did find that the primer pockets in the 44 mag cases were not as deep as the pockets in rifle cases.
It looks like mag primers and a good crimp it is with a full load of 110 or 4227.
Any one have a preferred hunting load for the Model 94 in 44 magnum.
My plan is to stick with jacketed 240gr. bullets and someday I may try a cast bullet to play with.
257 Roberts
 
t-star said:
there's a load for 44 mag using WW 748??????
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I haven't seen one, WW296 is great for full power 44 Mag loads.


I had a Win 94 Trapper in 44 Mag and it shot the 300 gr Hornady XTP's quite well with 20 grains of WW296, the load with H110 will be similar, check your reloading manual to be sure.
 
so there isn't -i thought something new had come down the pipe- 748 is far too slow for any pistol cartridge type application- the only trouble with 296 is that you have a supposed detonation problem according to winchester unless you load to within 10 %of the recommended doseage- not all of us need bear stomping capability, esp. when all we're allowed to do is punch paper, plus it takes considerably more powder - my manual says 24.7 grains using a240 grain bullet gives 1440,out of a 10 inch tube- 231 top load is 11.9 giving 1219 - 200 ft /second extra doesn't justify the expense on paper
 
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