44 projectiles

Thanks for the replies, i should have stated copper plated or fmj. I load the drg 45 230 grain from hummasons for surplus. Tried the 38 158 grainers and they were so undersized my rifling disappeared. I dont trust lead in magnum loads as i plan to load near max.
 
I use berry's plated in my 30-30. Granted, they are plated a little heavier than pistol bullets but I haven't been able to shear it off with a lee factory crimp die. I crimped some as much as possible on purpose to try and I couldn't. I fired some into a clay bank and i couldn't even tell where they'd been crimped so I really wouldn't worry about shearing the plating.

What I MIGHT worry about is if you plan on using them in a pistol caliber lever action. It's a lot harder to control the crimp with a pistol caliber factory crimp die because it depends on having uniform case length. Longer cases will have more crimp, shorter ones less. Who trims pistol brass? I don't.

That said, I've been having good success crimping hard cast lead bullets out of the cannelure because my rossi 92 likes them a little longer than seating in the cannelure. They don't seem to move and I've made dummy rounds I've cycled about a dozen times.

Berry's bullets are plated hard cast. I plan on buying a bunch of the Berry's (without a cannelure) to try and I'm pretty sure they'll work fine with a firm crimp and won't shed the plating.

Here's a 30-30 berry's I crimped as hard as I could with a lee factory crimp die that I shot into a clay bank. I can't see where it was crimped. The plating that shedded was from where it hit a stone.

They're cheap, don't worry about the cannelure and do some experimenting, that's what I've been doing. It's fun!

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I've been using the Berry 240 gr JHP with my 44mag revolver with no problems. I started using them in my DE and I may try to switch to a round nose for that just to give it a little help in feeding. What are you planing to shoot them from?
 
Go to Hummasson in Ancaster and buy their DRG hard cast bullets. the 240gr SWC has a crimping groove. A very accurate bullet you load as hot or mild as you want. Cheap, too.

905 648-3430

Those are what I use for my 44 mag and 357 mag revolvers, they are a great bullet, you can easily push them to magnum levels without issue.
 
"...should have stated copper plated or fmj..." First get the money from the sale of your kidney, then order 'em from your local gun shop. Be prepared to pay up front.
"...do not wish to taper crimp 44 mag..." No such thing as a taper crimp die for a rimmed case.
 
Those are what I use for my 44 mag and 357 mag revolvers, they are a great bullet, you can easily push them to magnum levels without issue.

I agree with this on cast bullets. My Redhawk in .44 Mag has never seen a jacketed bullet. Fairly hard cast 245gr Keith SWC work just fine all the way up to the thermonuclear load level. OP will find that properly sized, lubed, correct hardness cast bullets will outperform jacketed in .44 Mag all day long.


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"...should have stated copper plated or fmj..." First get the money from the sale of your kidney, then order 'em from your local gun shop. Be prepared to pay up front.
"...do not wish to taper crimp 44 mag..." No such thing as a taper crimp die for a rimmed case.

Copper plated 44 projectiles are not expensive at all.. Just looking for ones with cannelure. Also as other have posted there are lots of taper crimp dies for rimmed case
 
I am loading for my super blackhawk. Problem with cast ( IMO) is that its tough to find good properly sized projectile at the right hardness. Out of my gp100 i can only shoot light 38 special 130 grain drg cast . When i tried some hot .38 or 357 mag my barrel was full of lead. Like i said the drg 45 230grain in 45acp are fine but i am having trouble trusting the drg cast bullets with 44 mag as i dont want to deal with a barrel full of lead again. I like saving the money but its not worth the headache of trying to find the right projectile. I currently cast my own slugs and buckshot but have no intentions to ever cast my own pistol projectiles. I have also heard rugers have somewhat of a larger bore that is hard to seal up with cast bullets ? I understand you can use a roll crimp and it " should" hold but i would prefer finding projectiles with cannelure. I have not loaded 44mag yet but will be loading very hot loads. The cast reloads i have made work perfect but i never shoot them as i hate the smoke and the residue in my guns. I have around 6k of 45 acp loaded up right now in my surplus inventory and IMHO thats all cast is good for.
 
I am loading for my super blackhawk. Problem with cast ( IMO) is that its tough to find good properly sized projectile at the right hardness. Out of my gp100 i can only shoot light 38 special 130 grain drg cast . When i tried some hot .38 or 357 mag my barrel was full of lead. Like i said the drg 45 230grain in 45acp are fine but i am having trouble trusting the drg cast bullets with 44 mag as i dont want to deal with a barrel full of lead again. I like saving the money but its not worth the headache of trying to find the right projectile. I currently cast my own slugs and buckshot but have no intentions to ever cast my own pistol projectiles. I have also heard rugers have somewhat of a larger bore that is hard to seal up with cast bullets ? I understand you can use a roll crimp and it " should" hold but i would prefer finding projectiles with cannelure. I have not loaded 44mag yet but will be loading very hot loads. The cast reloads i have made work perfect but i never shoot them as i hate the smoke and the residue in my guns. I have around 6k of 45 acp loaded up right now in my surplus inventory and IMHO thats all cast is good for.

I shoot DRG 240gr hard cast through my Super Blackhawk Hunter without any issues, the issues you were having with the 357 mag was likely related to velocity and not the bullet itself.
 
I shoot DRG 240gr hard cast through my Super Blackhawk Hunter without any issues, the issues you were having with the 357 mag was likely related to velocity and not the bullet itself.

I had leading in my gp100 with .38 special loaded with 4.5 grain win 231. Then heard some more velocity might help " seal" the lead projectile.... Didnt make things any better. Turned out they were way too undersized.
 
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