45-70 and barnes buster bullets

I use Bear Tooth Pile Driver 525 gr bullets and some home hard cast 540 gr with gas checks and love the Penetration ! - they have Little to NO expansion but kill BEARS dead ! The Hornady 325 gr FTX bullet is a good deer bullet but thats about it - Very thin jacket and Poor penetration and they come apart too - The 250 gr FTX Mono bullet is a far better penetrator bullet and its stays completely together and kills GOOD ! It can be shot pretty fast and is fairly flat shooting too ! LOL The Rem 405 and the Speer 400 gr jacketed bullets are good ones too for Killing most Game ! :) RJ
 
aaron v said:
I'm at the max for that action according to the Hodgson data, I loaded up to it carefully and have no signs of over pressure.
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Just a friendly warning, with the 45-70 cartridge you will see none of the regular warning signs common to current reloading with modern components until it is too late. Modern primers don't change characteristics when loaded in different cartridges, they won't show cratering/deforming until into the 50,000 range. Unless you are shooting a custom bolt rifle or possibly a Ruger No 1, by the time you "see " pressure signs the grenade might well have gone off .
 
leonard said:
Oh yes I agree with this above statement, the primers likely wont bulge until well past the safe limit of the actions.
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X3 !

Here are what the first signs of being over-pressure with a 45-70 chambered Marlin 1895 look like:

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Winchester 1886 in 45-70

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Bullet Barn used to cast a 420 gr with a gas check - Excellent bullet ! I only like gas checked cast bullets - just my preference - they exot my guide gun at 1985 fps avg for 5 shots - my 525 gr Bear Tooth Pile Drivers exit at 1665 fps for a 5 shot avg - Both are loaded in front of H322 powder . RJ
 
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the bullet on the right is a barnes buster 400gr and the bullet on the left is a 390gr gas checked from the bullet bar. both were shot out off my marlin 1895gbl into the same log. the barnes penetrated double of the bullet barns. the barnes didnt have much expension at all.
 
mikeboehm said:
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the bullet on the right is a barnes buster 400gr and the bullet on the left is a 390gr gas checked from the bullet bar. both were shot out off my marlin 1895gbl into the same log. the barnes penetrated double of the bullet barns. the barnes didnt have much expension at all.
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Thanks Mike. Exactly what I was looking for. A generic 44 mag slightly over penetrates a generic 12ga slug (11"vs9"), but reloading the barnes buster would be easier to get penetration than sourcing high end difficult to find expensive loaded slug rounds.
 
mikeboehm said:
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the bullet on the right is a barnes buster 400gr and the bullet on the left is a 390gr gas checked from the bullet bar. both were shot out off my marlin 1895gbl into the same log. the barnes penetrated double of the bullet barns. the barnes didnt have much expension at all.
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Mike are you buying those Barnes bullets in Canada ? If so , where and how much ? Thank You
 
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