45-70 Cast Bullets for Competition

Private Skidmarks

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Hello All,
I am looking for suitable cast bullets for a 45-70 to be used in competition. Maximum range about 300 yards. I've had good luck with a 330gr. Gould HP, but could only round up about 50 bullets locally. The Speer 405gr Cowboy Cast worked well, but were very expensive. Other than these two, supplies are limited to 500gr cast (not Postill).
Help:confused:
Private Skidmarks
 
M T Chambers supplies 8 diff. bullets for the 45/70, hardcast Gas check flat points for hunting and heavy spitzers for BPCR and everything in between. What kind of target shooting are you doing? Black powder or smokeless? Sillywet is usually fired out to 500meters w/ BP.
 
Have you tried paper patching?
Been meaning to try it myself. You can use a dead soft bullet, for maximum bore contact, but avoid leading like you had a gas check.
Down side is they are a lot of work to put together in quantity.
Other than that, I suggest you take up casting your own. Get a scale, and weigh each bullet, separating them by weight. This way you can pitch the bullets with hidden voids/impurities in them and dependant on your skill and patience level, get quality equal or better than the comercial bullets available.
 
sunray said:
Go to Shooter's Choice on Colby St. in Waterloo.
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That is where I got the initial 50 rounds of Gould HP. Trouble is, that is all I was able to get in 18 months of trying. They always have the 500 grainers there but they are not the Postills that I an looking for. BTW, I am shooting smokeless in a very accurate lever gun to a range of 300 yards. These cast bullets are to be used in competition first and hunting second. Not a great B.C. but not 1000 yds either. That's why I liked the Gould HP - accurate and hard hitting.

The idea of casting has appealed to my sense of control and I will pursue that endeavour once I have gotten past the 2007 season of big bore competition.;) But for now I need ready made big boolits:)

Thanks,
Private Skidmarks
 
The Chambers Creedmore 555gr. bullet is very accurate and hard hitting on the 500 meter rams, it is the Paul Jones bullet, and is used to 1200yds give or take! Some others on this site have used this bullet and they may be able to give some feedback.
 
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ben hunchak said:
The Chambers Creedmore 555gr. bullet is very accurate and hard hitting on the 500 meter rams, it is the Paul Jones bullet, and is used to 1200yds give or take! Some others on this site have used this bullet and they may be able to give some feedback.
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Thanks for the feedback but I also need to know where to purchase and maybe how much $.
:)
Private_Skidmarks
 
PM me for details, as i re-read your post, it sounds like you would be better off with a lighter bullet in the levergun as the Creedmore bullets are meant for single shots and black powder. Anyhow I'm sure MT Chambers has at least 8 or 10 designs you'd like!
 
Private Skidmarks said:
Thanks for the feedback but I also need to know where to purchase and maybe how much $.
:)
Private_Skidmarks
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If you're interested, there's a guy in this area that has a good variety of bullets available, for very reasonable prices. I get all my cast 'stuff' from him now. If you're interested, send me a PM and I'll sent you contact info.
 
I have only ever used Lee molds and never designed one. Are the ones made by Mountian molds that much better? Anyone have any tips for picking a great bullet design for general plinking/hunting? The bullets would be fired from a H&R handi rifle.
 
I don't think a person needs to design one to get a good mould, Saeco makes some very accurate designs for the .45/70, as does NEI, Lyman, Hoch, RCBS, Paul Jones, I use moulds from all the above makers for our business and can recommend them all. The 405gr. Saeco FP PB would be my first choice for a good, accurate, bullet.
 
The H&R can use most any .458 design that will chamber. In your position, I would start by establishing what I wanted to do with the rifle, how much recoil I wanted, what kind of accuracy I expected, at what range, and what I wanted to hunt. There are literally mountains of .458 mould designs out there. Those choices should help whittle it down a bit.
 
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