45-70 gov vs 450 marlin?

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i am looking for a lever action rifle with clip mag in 45-70 but no luck yet,i've found browning makes the BLR in 450 marlin but i know nothing about this round, is this even close to the 45-70? i know marlin make an awsome 45-70 guide gun in stainless but with internal tube mag,takes forever to load and no pointy bullet's
 
Pointy bullets are not all that helpful at 45/70 velocities but that being said...

The 450 Marlin is more or less a belted 45/70 loaded hotter. There's nothing that one can do that the other can't with handloading. The BLR is the only factory mag fed gun I'm aware of in either caliber.
 
The .450 Marlin is nothing more than a "hot" .45-70 Gov't load designed to work in the stronger modern Marlin and Ruger actions. Hornady didn't want to put out a really hot .45-70 Gov't load that some dumb-bunny would proceed to fire in older Winchester or Springfield and blow their hands/face off because of the weaker actions and higher chamber pressures.

Their solution was to create the .450 Marlin and to make it so that it can't be chambered in standard .45-70 chambers. Its a good brush round and great for Moose, bear, etc...

Like Rommel said above, I would'be be hung up looking for "pointed" bullets for this round. It's ballistic trajectory doesn't make it a long-range sniper round, but it will really shine up to 200M.
 
The .450 Marlin is the lawyers' Guide Gun.
No reason why you can't load a GG in 45-70 to the same levels, but nobody wants to say so for fear of incurring liability if some of those loads found their way into another 45-70 action that can't handle them.
 
I load pointy bullets in my Marlin 45/70. Hornady makes a soft point bullet for the lever guns. I prefer 45/70 over .450 Marlin, for several reasons, once being that it's cool to shoot an old round! Plus the 450 does not really do anything a handloader cannot do with the 45/70.

Mind you, since you seem to want a detacheable mag, the BLR is your only choice. I'm sure it will be fine, have fun with it!
 
There is no safety issue with respect to loading pointed bullets in the Marlin provided you are content to use it as a 2-shooter, one round in the chamber and one in the magazine. There might be a practicality issue with the practice however in that pointed bullets have longer ogives than do blunt nosed bullets and the longer nose length of the pointed bullet might very well cause cycling problems in the Marlin. I can't speak to the Browning as I haven't seen one in years, and it wasn't a long action. I'm thinking here in terms of the .458/450 TSX. If I needed a .45 caliber high BC rifle bullet, it is unlikely that it would be chambered in a small capacity cartridge like the .45/70, .450 Marlin, or for that matter the .458 Winchester. More likely it would be a bolt gun chambered for a .458 wildcat based on the Ultra or the .338 Lapua case.
 
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You may find that pointed bullets other than the Hornady FTX are too long for these cartridges in a lever gun. They may need to be seated into the ogive to achieve a short enough OAL to cycle through the action.
 
Silverado said:
You may find that pointed bullets other than the Hornady FTX are too long for these cartridges in a lever gun. They may need to be seated into the ogive to achieve a short enough OAL to cycle through the action.
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You just need to shorten the case to match the loaded leverevolution ammo, (or just buy a box and save the cases.)
 
I have A BLR in 450 Marlin and love it. It is a light weight easy to carry real thumper in the bush. It is the 20" barrel take down version. This gun prefers the pointed bullets for reliable feeding. I have shot the 300 grain Nosler partitions quite a bit and if you get excited and try to run the leaver too fast they will catch on the feed ramp. The 300 grain Barnes cup and core feed flawlessly and absolutely hammer the wild boars that I have used them on.


And its also cool to have something that none of your buddies shoot.
 
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