45-70 newbie question
- Thread starter alec ouellet
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Yes they are I have been using Kick-Eez recoil pads for about 10 - 15 years (can't remember for sure) I have about 10 of their pads now and still using the first ones that I bought.
Only issue I have had on the first 2 Kick-Eez pads that I originally bought/installed the toe of the pad tore a bit when I closed the hard case onto the pad and the other one tore in the same place it had the same look to it but I don't know what I did to it and I have never had one harden or flatten or stop doing what it was designed to do.
Kick-Eez has been improving their pads from those first ones they are a harder material now (not as soft to the touch) but are supposed to give better felt recoil reduction, I just installed 2 of these new ones on a Rem 700 LSS in 300 RUM and my shortened 375RUM and they work great.
At first I was a little nervous when I shot the shortened 375RUM with the new harder pad but even though it is harder it seemed to work a bit better.
I look at it this way the extra felt recoil reduction is so good that even if I had to change the pads every 5 to 10 years I would take them over anything else but I don't have to.
Here are the results of a test done by "Experimental Services Inc from Akron, Ohio they performed a series ofstatic, dynamic and pulse tests on seven pads from 4 different manufacturers in an effort to sort thru the conflicting claims of superiority in recoil pads.
Of the models tested the 3 highest rated pads were all Kick-Eez Pads".
Energy Absorbed by Recoil Pads
Decelerator = 32%
HiViz XCoil = 40%
Limbsaver 10542 = 44%
Limbsaver 10002 = 46%
Kick-Eez 301-8 Dual Action = 88%
" 301-10 Standard = 94%
" 301-10 Dual Action = 98%
If any of you are wondering how I can shoot heavy recoiling rifles as fast as I can these recoil pads have a lot to do with it ok ok I also shoot a lot but I can shoot a lot because I'm not hurting myself.
Only issue I have had on the first 2 Kick-Eez pads that I originally bought/installed the toe of the pad tore a bit when I closed the hard case onto the pad and the other one tore in the same place it had the same look to it but I don't know what I did to it and I have never had one harden or flatten or stop doing what it was designed to do.
Kick-Eez has been improving their pads from those first ones they are a harder material now (not as soft to the touch) but are supposed to give better felt recoil reduction, I just installed 2 of these new ones on a Rem 700 LSS in 300 RUM and my shortened 375RUM and they work great.
At first I was a little nervous when I shot the shortened 375RUM with the new harder pad but even though it is harder it seemed to work a bit better.
I look at it this way the extra felt recoil reduction is so good that even if I had to change the pads every 5 to 10 years I would take them over anything else but I don't have to.
Here are the results of a test done by "Experimental Services Inc from Akron, Ohio they performed a series ofstatic, dynamic and pulse tests on seven pads from 4 different manufacturers in an effort to sort thru the conflicting claims of superiority in recoil pads.
Of the models tested the 3 highest rated pads were all Kick-Eez Pads".
Energy Absorbed by Recoil Pads
Decelerator = 32%
HiViz XCoil = 40%
Limbsaver 10542 = 44%
Limbsaver 10002 = 46%
Kick-Eez 301-8 Dual Action = 88%
" 301-10 Standard = 94%
" 301-10 Dual Action = 98%
If any of you are wondering how I can shoot heavy recoiling rifles as fast as I can these recoil pads have a lot to do with it ok ok I also shoot a lot but I can shoot a lot because I'm not hurting myself.
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Range time with kf123 proves that.....
We made a mistake once and went to the range with only our 45/70s. I woke up the next morning and had some issues pouring a cup of coffee.
While it's a lot of fun to play with hot loads and really heavy bullets, I now reload for my Marlin for hunting with the Leverevolution components that are now in Canada. It's great because it's a fantastic bullet that we can now improve with a bit more powder than what comes off the shelve.
For play, we cast our own. No matter what we put in the chamber... it's always a great result.
I've been reloading my 45-70 for a year now. I've worked up 3 different bullet/powder combos that work well in an 1895 guide gun and one birdshot load that works pretty good. All are lower power levels than hodgdon lever data and hotter than lee's lever data. Any more power and they tend to spread out. These lower power loads can group under an inch at 100 yards with the right weather.
H4198, R7 and IMR4895 seem to be good powders. H4198 for cast, R7 and IMR4895 for jacketed.
I have some H4895 on backorder and I can't wait to try it. H335 also works well for higher power loads, but I can't get anything to group under 2.5" at 100 yards.
I have shot modern rifle data loads and none of them have blown me up, but none of them shoot well either - all just a little too hot.
For the birdshot load, I mix 50/50 FFF (NOT 777, which is chlorate based and will react when mixed with smokeless) and H335 by volume (using dippers) and compress 2CC in a 45/90 brass. I top that with a cup shaped paper wad and fill with #6 birdshot. Then I fill it up with wax. The shot spreads out nicely and doesn't pick up much twist from the rifling (no doghnut pattern). About a 30" circle at 30 feet with lots of fliers,but still great for small game when afield anywhere I bring a 45/70 for protection.
H4198, R7 and IMR4895 seem to be good powders. H4198 for cast, R7 and IMR4895 for jacketed.
I have some H4895 on backorder and I can't wait to try it. H335 also works well for higher power loads, but I can't get anything to group under 2.5" at 100 yards.
I have shot modern rifle data loads and none of them have blown me up, but none of them shoot well either - all just a little too hot.
For the birdshot load, I mix 50/50 FFF (NOT 777, which is chlorate based and will react when mixed with smokeless) and H335 by volume (using dippers) and compress 2CC in a 45/90 brass. I top that with a cup shaped paper wad and fill with #6 birdshot. Then I fill it up with wax. The shot spreads out nicely and doesn't pick up much twist from the rifling (no doghnut pattern). About a 30" circle at 30 feet with lots of fliers,but still great for small game when afield anywhere I bring a 45/70 for protection.
