45/70???

[death-junky]

Im looking at a 45-70 and was wondering what is the recoil, range, and avalibility of ammo are. I do not reload so that may be a problem. I was looking at a Marlin Classic Model 1895 so ya what do you think.
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Riley

 

[ColdOne]

I've got the guide gun myself.

With stock Winchester 300gr ammo, recoil is quite manageable. More like a shotgun than a high powered rifle. I can go through 20 or 30 rounds plinking at the range.

Ammo has not been a problem to find for me.

As for range, it is one of the original long range cartridges! However, its trajectory is similar to that of a howitzer...

According to Shoot! v3, With the 300 grain winchester ammo at 1880fps and a 150 meter zero:
50 meters 2.56 inches high
100 meters 3.18 inches high
120 meters 2.38 inches high
150 meters 0 inches
170 meters 2.51 inches low
200 meters 7.74 inches low
250 meters 20.79 inches low

For humours sake:
1000 meters 1332.97 inches low.

An interesting read:
http://www.researchpress.co.uk/targets/sandyhook.htm

 

[crazy_davey]

Holy crap These 45-70 threads are popping up like bear deffense threads

 

[ColdOne]

I can see the next step:
What is the best defence against a 45/70?
Posted by Yogi.

 

[todbartell]

Marlin lever rifles in 444 or 45/70 are in high demand...

PS, Amphibious, your case of Lever Revolution 450 Marlin ammo is in, PM me
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[Johnn Peterson]

I have a 1895 in .444, and a 1895GS in .45-70. For me what really makes them fun is the playing and results with cast bullet loads. A real blast, pardon the pun.

 

[Preacher]

Any time you start a 300-500 grain slug downrange with enough force to blow holes in large game, you are going to be reminded that you just shot a rifle. A lot of guys use the 45-70 in the BPCR matches out to some pretty long ranges. Trajectory like a rainbow.

 

[catnthehatt]

Any time you start a 300-500 grain slug downrange with enough force to blow holes in large game, you are going to be reminded that you just shot a rifle. A lot of guys use the 45-70 in the BPCR matches out to some pretty long ranges. Trajectory like a rainbow.

Just for fun, take a look at this DJ!
We have a lot of fun with big bullets WAAAY OUT there!
Optimum trajectory information :
Optimum sight-in range (X) = 92 Yds.
with max. ordinate above LOS at range (M)= 56 Yds.
and max. point blank range (P)= 106 Yds.
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Sight-in clicks, 1 click = 0.915 cm/100 yd. or 0.36 in/100 yd.
Height of sight above bore axis = 5.0 cm or 1.969 inch
Gun is zeroed-in at 200 yds,
by sighting-in at level firing
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Range Velo Time of Energy Path Deflection Total Sight correction Target
city flight to at crosswind drop for setting new lead
LOS of 1.0 Mph zero range 33 fps
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·Yards fps s ft.lbs. in. in. MOA in. Clicks MOA yds ·
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| 0 1320 0.0000 1934 -2.0 0.0 ----- 0.0 ------ ----- 0.00
| 100 1164 0.2425 1503 +11.8 0.3 0.26 10.9 -32.8 -11.29 2.65
M 108 1153 0.2632 1476 +11.9 0.3 0.28 12.8 -30.6 -10.53 2.88
X 200 1054 0.5141 1234 0.0 1.1 0.51 47.4 0.0 0.00 5.62
P 205 1050 0.5284 1223 -1.4 1.1 0.52 50.0 +1.8 +0.63 5.78
| 300 978 0.8097 1062 -42.7 2.3 0.72 114.8 +39.5 +13.60 8.86
| 400 920 1.1269 939 -121.3 3.9 0.92 218.1 +84.2 +28.96 12.32
| 500 871 1.4616 842 -239.3 5.8 1.10 360.7 +132.8 +45.69 15.98
| 600 828 1.8156 762 -402.1 8.0 1.28 548.2 +186.0 +63.97 19.86
| 700 790 2.1856 693 -612.3 10.6 1.44 783.1 +242.7 +83.50 23.90
| 800 754 2.5748 632 -876.7 13.4 1.61 1072.2 +304.0 +104.59 28.16
| 900 721 2.9826 578 -1200.0 16.7 1.77 1420.2 +369.9 +127.23 32.62
| 1000 690 3.4060 529 -1584.1 20.1 1.92 1829.0 +439.3 +151.12 37.25
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M = Peak vs. L.O.S, X = Set Zero, P = Max. Point Blank Range
Elevation above Angle of Site (0.0 deg.) = 0.3929 deg.
cAT

 

[stewarch]

I can see the next step:
What is the best defence against a 45/70?
Posted by Yogi.

I love it!!! First, there were many bear defence threads ..... then a grouse defence thread ..... now a 45/70 defence thread. I like the sig line of one of the guys here, that the 45/70 had the ballistic coeficient of an AA duracel.

Still and all, I love my 45/70 1885 single shot!!!