.45 ACP ammo

Spawn-Inc said:
Can you post pictures of your bdx brass? Why can't it be reloaded?
Click to expand...

ok not CANT, but likely wont, since it uses the smaller primer and its not usually worth that extra hassle to people to deal with the different cases


to the OP

get norinco ammo and have fun, its cheap and decent quality, only con is its dirty, gun needs more cleaning with its use.
 
wrinkles88 said:
Sorry I'm relatively new to the sport so I don't quiet understand.
Click to expand...

Norinco 45 uses Full Metal Jacket bullet while Wolf uses hard cast lead bullet (in the SFRC deal you mentioned).

Without jacket, the rifling cuts into the lead and creat the heavy metal dust at muzzle. Also, hard cast lead bullet use wax to lubricate. The powder burns the wax and create smoke after every shot.

Wolf does have jacket bullet but not for that price.
 
Well I am sold on the Norinco now.

I have no problem cleaning my gun, and I plan to after each use anyways.

Thanks for all your replys and help.
 
As long as what you buy is brass cased (for reloading), it will work just great - I put 5,000 rounds of everything from Hydra Shock to 200 grain LSWC through my M&P 45 with zero malfunctions of any kind. As long as the ammo meets the specs for 45 auto, they'll work for you. I'd definitely go for what I could get cheapest.
 
michaelsabre said:
Wolf is Lead.....

Like the smoke + heavy metal dust?
Click to expand...

you get more heavy metal exposure from the primer compound then you do from the cast bullet. Plus the primer is sulphate which is contact absorded, where you have to injest metal, and even then, most of it will pass thru your system. Depending on the lube/powder combo it can smoke more or less, true. If your range is outdoors or has any sort of decent ventilation i'd not worry at all about shooting cast wolf reloads, its good stuff
 
Dexter Morgan said:
The bare lead ammo makes a big mess inside your barrel. Jacketed ammo is much better.
Click to expand...

not ussually. I only have one handgun, (a 22) that will lead with cast bullets at below magnum velocities. In fact, i find cast can shoot cleaning in certian cases. Depends on the gun, and on the lube and powder used.

Plated is nice as it's clean to handle in the loading process and isn't (much) more expensive, but i can get my cast bullets currently at 25 for 500 lubed and sized, where plated is double, and FMJ, well.....it's about that for 100.
 
michaelsabre said:
Norinco 45 uses Full Metal Jacket bullet while Wolf uses hard cast lead bullet (in the SFRC deal you mentioned).

Without jacket, the rifling cuts into the lead and creat the heavy metal dust at muzzle. Also, hard cast lead bullet use wax to lubricate. The powder burns the wax and create smoke after every shot.

Wolf does have jacket bullet but not for that price.
Click to expand...

Apparently you have been seriously mis informed about cast bullets.
The rifleing does not cut the lead, the lead is swaged or flows over the rifleing. On the other hand, many of the cheaper plated bullets will have the copper rupture as it is laid on to thin to flex/flow and not crack. Lead is ussually more accurate than a plated bullet as it does not have the variable of plated thickness. Properly loaded cast bullets will not shed any real amount of metal dust, unless you have a revolver that's out of time and shaving bullets. In a semi, none at all. If you load an UNDERSIZED bullet you will get flame cutting at the base which can cause some vaporization, and leading in the barrel. The most common cause is too hard of a bullet pushed to slow. Soft is better, esp in revolvers untill you hit 11-1200 fps. Then just add a gas check, and maybe go to a harder alloy.

My xd9 has 7000 rounds thru it give or take a few thousand, of those 80% where lead. I have not cleaned the bore beyond swabbing with a patch on storage for more then 3000 rounds. no lead.
 
Last edited:
Cocked&Locked said:
Apparently you have been seriously mis informed about cast bullets.
The rifleing does not cut the lead, the lead is swaged or flows over the rifleing. On the other hand, many of the cheaper plated bullets will have the copper rupture as it is laid on to thin to flex/flow and not crack. Lead is ussually more accurate than a plated bullet as it does not have the variable of plated thickness. Properly loaded cast bullets will not shed any real amount of metal dust, unless you have a revolver that's out of time and shaving bullets. In a semi, none at all. If you load an UNDERSIZED bullet you will get flame cutting at the base which can cause some vaporization, and leading in the barrel. The most common cause is too hard of a bullet pushed to slow. Soft is better, esp in revolvers untill you hit 11-1200 fps. Then just add a gas check, and maybe go to a harder alloy.

My xd9 has 7000 rounds thru it give or take a few thousand, of those 80% where lead. I have not cleaned the bore beyond swabbing with a patch on storage for more then 3000 rounds. no lead.
Click to expand...

There is a reason engineers put jacket onto bullets.

Wait until you shoot European fancy barrels. I have to cut powder down to 3.6 gr Titegroup on 9mm before keyholes disappear on my Glock. Lead bullet has trouble sticking to poly rifling...

Bottom line, it's reasonable to use lead bullet since it's cheaper. But at the same price??? Noooooo
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom