.45 ACP not good for a first handgun?

Hell, you'll love the 45 ACP!
Just make sure you take up reloading your own brass.
Capp is so right! 9mm is half the cost of 45.
And a box of 50 rds of 45 acp generally goes for about 25 & change.
Nice thing though, 45 is damn easy on the press compared to other pistol cartridges.
 
Is the GSG 1911 better than the Norinco? Will the GSG .22lr slide work on a .45 frame? I don't know anything about 1911's, but my dad had his eye on one in the gun store, and that's probably what he'll get for Christmas.
 
.45

My 12 yr old daughter,started two years ago with .45 Auto
Ordnance. loves it. Remington R1 is as good as any to start. I don,t know why people on CGN bash certain products without actually ownig them. Pistols in .22 get boring fast. hand loading for .45 just part of the fun.
 
For a first gun, you want something reliable. A cheap 1911 such as the R1 is not a good gun for a newbie (to get it down to its price point, corners had to be cut, and Remington is not exactly for building high quality products). You'll grow frustrated once it starts jamming on you.

Have you shot one or even held one? All those other 1911's in that price range must be Sh*t too, all jammamatics. I have not had any problems with my R1 since getting it. Build quality is on par with my Colt I used to own.


Mark
 
Have you shot one or even held one? All those other 1911's in that price range must be Sh*t too, all jammamatics. I have not had any problems with my R1 since getting it. Build quality is on par with my Colt I used to own.


Mark
Lots of problem reported by R1 owners. Do a google search for Remington R1 Problems and you'll find lots of threads on various message boards. That is not to jay that every R1 out there is defective, but the overall record is not good.

And yes, most low end 1911s have quality issues. Building a proper 1911 requires minute attention to detail, which is simply not possible on a tight budget.
 
Is that why Norc 1911's have nothing but good reviews around here? At $350, they're a smoking deal. My first handgun is one, in .45ACP of course. Maybe I've gone through a few too many shotgun slugs but I was frankly underwhelmed by the round. I would even say I was slightly disappointed, I expected much more oomph out of .45 auto.
 
When I went shopping for my firs pistol I was looking for a 1911 in 9mm.
After speaking to some 1911 shooters I know they all told me to start with a 45 because it feels more like a push than a snap that the 9mm delivers.

I went with the .45 and I didn't have any problems learning and shot it well enough to pass my Black Badge course with it.
 
If you want a 45 calibre 1911, why not. No reason for anyone not to. Ammo is expensive but as mentioned, 45 is an easy calibre to reload, just hang on to your brass at first 'cause 45 brass is eternal (you can reload it well past the point that you can read the headstamp). If you have a choice between an el cheapo reloading setup and a 22 pistol, like a GSG - get the reloader, cheap 45 auto ammo is a blessing from God. The Remington R1 I looked at seemed to be well built and tight, but I'd hang on until the Ruger 1911 is available - I've heard great things about it and it seems to be coming in at a terrific price.
 
Get a 1911 in .38 Super.

Problem solved.

.38 Super ammunition or brass is even more expensive and harder to find than for .45 ACP.

Problem worse.

Don't even think of getting a .45 unless you plan on reloading for it. Factory ammo is far too expensive, especially if you're going to be burning up lots of it shooting IDPA. Buy at least 1000 rounds of remanufactured ammo to tide you over until you get a press and save the brass.
 
STI Spartan. If you want cheap ammo, buy a 9.If you want a 45, get a 45. 22 is ok, but a centrefire is more accurate.And, it's easier to see the holes.
 
STI Spartan. If you want cheap ammo, buy a 9.If you want a 45, get a 45. 22 is ok, but a centrefire is more accurate.And, it's easier to see the holes.


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This is a Hammerli model 150 in 22 LR.
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This is a factory test target @50 meters.
General statements need more clarity don't you think?
I also own a Ruger Mk II bull barrel that will outshoot most of my other handguns at 25 yards.
Surely there are other Ruger owners who would probably agree with me.
 
Sure, but now you're comparing an F1 car to a Mustang. A normal 22 firing bulk ammo is not as accurate as a centrefire.
 
If you don't buy a .45acp for your first handgun your #### is going to turn into a ######. Seriously though, do you want a ######?
 
45 was my first handgun but I got so used to shooting .45 that when I switched to 9mm it seemed very underwhelming
 
A 1911 in .45 is a perfect gun choice, shouldn't really care about the cost of ammo because reload them is only $40 more than 9mm for a thousand if you buy Berry's bullet. Just ask people give you their brass if they don't reload. I do this a lot and guess what, several range section I gather seven hundred once fired brass.

Trigun
 
yup

If you're on a budget get a Norinco 1911 and a M93 .22. that way you'll have both.

I started with 9mm and don't regret it (I've been shooting airguns for years before that) second gun was a .44mag and I was more accurate with it actually. I did end up getting a .22 later. and will laways have at least one .22 pistol. If you don't reload (and even if you do) shooting a .45 gets very expensive.

I have to agree totaly with this. Good post.:)
 
There is no pistol easier to shoot well than a 1911.

There is also no common pistol harder to maintain well than a 1911.

If you can stomach the maintenance and the cost to feeding it, it's a great pistol for a beginner, except that the trigger will spoil you for everything else.

But they are so easy to shoot that you can feel like a pro right off the bat. The downside is that they are so easy to shoot well, you will feel like a pro right off the bat, and won't realize that you can be screwing up the fundamentals and still shoot pretty well.

But as far as pistols go, nothing is easier than a 1911, and .45acp is pretty soft shooting.
 
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