45 ACP Problem

Most of the smoke you get is from the lube not the powder or lead as some think. So too the gunk build up in your gun. shooting lead is certainly much cheaper than either jacketed or plated. I clean my guns after any major range session anyway so it matters not to me.

Small pistol primers won't seat in a large primer pocket; neither will larg primers seat in small pockets.

I have no idea why Winchester made the switch with their Win Clean ammo. Frankly, wish they hadn't.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
I have no idea why Winchester made the switch with their Win Clean ammo. Frankly, wish they hadn't.

Take Care

Bob
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The win-clean primers are supposed to be lead free, and I think the mixture is more expensive. Small pistol primers work fine and probably keep the cost down. That is my offical guess. And X2 on the smoking lube thing. I practice IDPA indoors and after long strings I'd find myself looking through a cloud till the fans cleared it. I don't miss that, though it was funn the first few times. If I need a cloud I'll buy a front loader :D
 
Well they could have made the Win Clean Primers in the larger size. Frankly for all the mix in a primer I doubt cost had much to do with it.

Your point is valid in that regular primers contain lead and l suspect you are exposed to more lead from the primers than you are from shooting lead bullets. Most folks confuse the smoke from shooting lead bullets as being lead and powder smoke when it it for the most part lube smoke.

Take Care
 
Canuck44 said:
Well they could have made the Win Clean Primers in the larger size. Frankly for all the mix in a primer I doubt cost had much to do with it.

Your point is valid in that regular primers contain lead and l suspect you are exposed to more lead from the primers than you are from shooting lead bullets. Most folks confuse the smoke from shooting lead bullets as being lead and powder smoke when it it for the most part lube smoke.

Take Care
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I can't think of another reason though. Perhaps the lead free mix is much more expensive, or more powerful so a large primer would be to much? All I can do is guess, and I agree, I wish they hadn't, its a pain picking it out if it gets mixed into a bucket of brass
 
I would think they did it for a savings in cost of manufacture .
Albeit little difference , there is less material in a small primer . This adds up .
Also ( out on a limb ) , the small primer is is the same size as military primers in the USA ( 9mm / 223 ) . I think with that scale of manufacture there was probably a significant cost savings over the large . And seeing the box of ammo sells for the same ( ish ) that would all be pure profit .
Tick's me right off when one gets in my press though .
 
raks said:
For anyone who's reloaded the Winclean brass: Do you have to up the powder charge to get the same FPS/Power Factor as with normal (Large Primer) brass??
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Same powder charge, no problem. Xray
 
Levi Garrett said:
Another thing with range brass that I have seen is flash hole drilled out near the size of the primer pocket. Not sure what effect that may have, I just deep sixed any that were drilled.
Frank
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Chuck that away, thats why buddy left it on the ground. Might cause a problem with as it's now a weaker case? Xray
 
I have titegroup powder with cast lead 200gr SWC bullets. What sort of small primers should I use when reloading the Winclean brass?

I am green as grass on reloading. So forgive the dumb questions. Thanks.
 
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