45 Colt loads for winchester 94 trapper
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chuckwagon
CGN Regular
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- Nova Scotia
I use 2400 for hunting and unique or Universal clays for plinking.
sid strait
New member
- Location
- north west of edmonton
with a good cast bullet and a good lube groove i find 2f or 3f blackpowder good and loud , allmost fill case and compress with bullet , crimp
My rifle load in .45 colt uses a LEE 300gr RNFP gas checked bullet pushed by H110 and I have be getting just shy of 1700 fps out of a 20 inch barrel. You won't find this load in any manual. Go to leverguns.com and there is a good article written by Paco Kelly of heavy .45 colt loads. He gives a few good hints but doesn't come right out with his powder charge either. This load is pretty accurate out to 100 yds with iron sights but accuracy starts to fall off after about 30 rounds due to leading which is not an issue with a hunting load.
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Stuart
ricciardelli
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- Montana, USA
For the 250's:
2400 From 15.2 grains to 17.5 grains
Winchester WLP Primer
2400 From 15.2 grains to 17.5 grains
Winchester WLP Primer
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- New Scotland
The may be a bit of a hijack, but can you rechamber a 94 in 45 Colt to 454?
Big JD-From the hills
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Saskatchewan.
I doubt the longer round would feed without modification?
I have a winchester 94 trails end, Nice little gun, Put a 45cal hole through a doe on a cronic waste tag last fall... droped it on the run.
What brass are you guys using? Anyone notice a difference in accuracy between brands? I find that the winchester stuff is thinner walled than say starline.
I have a winchester 94 trails end, Nice little gun, Put a 45cal hole through a doe on a cronic waste tag last fall... droped it on the run.
What brass are you guys using? Anyone notice a difference in accuracy between brands? I find that the winchester stuff is thinner walled than say starline.
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
I shoot cast 200gr SWC and 325gr GC RNFP. Both using wheel weights. For the lighter bullet, titegroups works very well lit by Win LP primers in Starline brass.
I use H110 for the 325gr monster. You can find load data on the Hodgdon site. There is new data for modern 45LC rifles and HG's now.
I also found lots of great info and data in Handloader/Rifle magasine. Actually, where my project started.
Both loads shoot extremely well and do give a sizeable increase in velocity over a HG. The 200gr goes 1100 to 1200fps depending on how I load them. The heavy goes 1550 to 1600fps and will cut one big hole at 40yds using open sights.
As to whether Win brass is stronger or weaker, no feedback as I have started with Starline and haven't used up the brass yet. I do have a bunch of Win used stuff that will continue being used for reduced loads. I doubt any brand will wear out at reduced cast loads.
At my higher pressures, the Starline brass does develop a slight bulge around the case head. I thought the brass would certainly separate but after several reloads using my Lee dies, it is still going. I guess the brass is quite durable. Very impressed so far.
You can find a Lee 300gr GC mold but no longer the 315/325gr. What a hoot these bullets are. They just hammer and explode things at short and long distances. I water quench them and they hold together amazingly well. Haven't been able to stop one yet using water filled jugs and phone books and lumber.
This summer I hope to do a side by side with a 12ga slug and see which prevails. My bet goes to the 45LC and my trapper.
Jerry
I use H110 for the 325gr monster. You can find load data on the Hodgdon site. There is new data for modern 45LC rifles and HG's now.
I also found lots of great info and data in Handloader/Rifle magasine. Actually, where my project started.
Both loads shoot extremely well and do give a sizeable increase in velocity over a HG. The 200gr goes 1100 to 1200fps depending on how I load them. The heavy goes 1550 to 1600fps and will cut one big hole at 40yds using open sights.
As to whether Win brass is stronger or weaker, no feedback as I have started with Starline and haven't used up the brass yet. I do have a bunch of Win used stuff that will continue being used for reduced loads. I doubt any brand will wear out at reduced cast loads.
At my higher pressures, the Starline brass does develop a slight bulge around the case head. I thought the brass would certainly separate but after several reloads using my Lee dies, it is still going. I guess the brass is quite durable. Very impressed so far.
You can find a Lee 300gr GC mold but no longer the 315/325gr. What a hoot these bullets are. They just hammer and explode things at short and long distances. I water quench them and they hold together amazingly well. Haven't been able to stop one yet using water filled jugs and phone books and lumber.
This summer I hope to do a side by side with a 12ga slug and see which prevails. My bet goes to the 45LC and my trapper.
Jerry
I used one powder for 2 bullets . H110 . The bullets are 300 grain XTP's and 300 grain Beartooth hardcast , gaschecked . 23 grains . Winchester brass and CCI 350 primers . 2.5"- 5 shot groups at 100 yards with the Marlin Cowboy . 24 grains of H110 was ringing my brass so i backed off one .
