450/400 ne 3"

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Anyone else had the chance to shoot their new Ruger #1s chambered in the 450/400 NE?
Still waiting for the C&H Die set, should be here next week. Loaded 20 rounds last night with a borrowed set of dies. 90grs of R22 with lots of space left in the case for more. Fired 20 rounds this evening, don't think my shoulder could enjoy more abuse. Real close to my maximum tolerance threshold for self abuse!
A real eye opener to say the least................ now just where did I last see that cape buffalo?
Pics and a real range report to follow in the next few days.

I'm sure there are a few other #1 450/400 owners out there.
 
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While I am a big fan of the large cals., even British ones, the British weren't always wimps you know, I can't get my head around this cartridge, as opposed to the .405 Win.,.411 Hawk, .416 ruger/rigby, or even the old 40/90 Sharps.
 
It's a traditional double rifle cartridge, that was it's only reason for living. Now it is growing in popularity again as not only a double rifle cartridge but also in single shots. People love it because it delivers adequate killing power in a lighter double rifle as opposed to a heavier rifle like say a 470NE.
 
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405 Winchester was given a twist rate more suitable to 300 grain bullets which renders it pretty much useless on heavy game, given it's 2200 FPS muzzle velocity. Sure, it'll do for Moose, but it would be light for bison, next to useless for Cape Buffalo and #### useless for elephant. The 450-400, with a 400 grain bullet at 2050 FPS, would be beautiful for buffalo and doable, though light, for elephant. Better cartridges exist in bolt guns, the 416 Rigby comes rushing to the forefront (400 gr at 2400 FPS), but for a single shot or double, the 450-400 is the perfect client's rifle.
 
My .450/400 #1 is absolutely one of my most enjoyable rifles. Groups about 1 1/2'' at 100 with Hornady factory ammo, which is all I have shot through it. Recoil is surprisingly tolerable-- a big push rather than a sharp jolt. I mounted a Leupold 2 1/2x fixed power scope on it, and feel quite prepared for any rogue elephant that attempts to ravage Portland, Oregon.

gary
 
BigUglyMan said:
405 Winchester was given a twist rate more suitable to 300 grain bullets which renders it pretty much useless on heavy game, given it's 2200 FPS muzzle velocity. Sure, it'll do for Moose, but it would be light for bison, next to useless for Cape Buffalo and #### useless for elephant. The 450-400, with a 400 grain bullet at 2050 FPS, would be beautiful for buffalo and doable, though light, for elephant. Better cartridges exist in bolt guns, the 416 Rigby comes rushing to the forefront (400 gr at 2400 FPS), but for a single shot or double, the 450-400 is the perfect client's rifle.
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.405 Win.
You must be talking about the Winchester 95 eh BUM?
Put it in the Ruger #1 and you have a different animal...
2000FPS + with a 400 grainer...
pg. 74 Handloader #232...read the whole article and find out why Barness didn't re chamber to the 450-400 3"

Then last Sunday, first time at the range with my .405 Win. the 420gr. PP cast were hitting point on at a leisurely 1600fps...

Twist rates from Ruger's website:
.405 1:14
450-400 3" 1:15
Ruger often screws up on the specifications at their website..I bet both calibers have the same twist....

I am not saying the .405 can match the 450-400 3" in a modern rifle like the Ruger #1...Just saying it is not the weak sister that you portray it is in your commentray...
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But then again maybe we can start another stupid thread on the .405 vs 450-400 3" eh? double :)
 
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Kevan said:
But then again maybe we can start another stupid thread on the .405 vs 450-400 3" eh? double :)
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Or how about another on the 375 Ruger ?? :puke:[/QUOTE]



I missed that one on this site but saw plenty of 375 H&H pinky ring types get their tight little panty's in a knot over that on the AR "Big Bore" forum when the .375 Ruger first came out...:eek:

Most amusing... but only for a little while....:)
 
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