458 WM glass: 1.5-6 or 2.5-10?

I'd put a 1.5-6x42 on almost anything, way preferable to ~3-9 mostly into the low end magnification and field of view personally

I wish you could get more modern 1 inch tubes in that range with bigger objectives
 
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several newer lpvo's are coming out in higher power like 1-10 and large 34mm tubes, these must be brilliant, almost?
Primary Arms, Sig Tango, Vortex Razor
 
I’m not finding much that is close to what my ruger came with. Not a fan of big objectives and there really isn’t much room for one with these rings(m77 tang safety has 2 different hight rings).

Lots of AR type scopes that would most likely not handle the recoil.
 
boxhitch said:
several newer lpvo's are coming out in higher power like 1-10 and large 34mm tubes, these must be brilliant, almost?
Primary Arms, Sig Tango, Vortex Razor
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The problem is they are heavy and bulky, large turrets, 30mm tubes… what I like of the lower magnification variable scopes of the olden days, is the fact that they were compact and usually around the 11-13oz mark. My preference anyway!!
 
antiqueguy said:
If you know how to handle it it’s not that much for recoil. My guns 9lbs and with full house 500gr loads your only looking at 67 is pounds of recoil. A standard 12ga slug is somewhere in the neghiborhood of 30-35lbs depending on gun weight. A proper stance and a little push pull and theirs really nothing to it. My hunting load only produces around 12ga recoil. I may throw the scope rhat came with my gun back on it hopefully it can take the recoil.
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Not quite the same when shooting off a bench. My BRNO 602 in 458. win Mag. Whacks my knuckles with the bolt handle when shooting off the bench but when standing to shoot it’s not that bad. I do not have a scope on it.
 
Hunter7 said:
Not quite the same when shooting off a bench. My BRNO 602 in 458. win Mag. Whacks my knuckles with the bolt handle when shooting off the bench but when standing to shoot it’s not that bad. I do not have a scope on it.
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Any heavy caliber will handle different off the bench. Shooting sticks are your friend.

It is a pretty versatile rifle though and can be loaded much like a .45-90. Over the years I have grown the really like the cartridge can shoot anything from 250gr and up for bullets I have seen guys load sabots and even bird shot with .410 wads. The verity of powders projectiles ect that can be used for everything from deer sized game to elephant.

I’m going to even try some “gaurd” loads 3 .457 round ball loaded up might make a good coyote popper.
 
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^ Increase the objective diameter, increase this effect

There was 1.5-6x50 or thereabouts on the ee forever by some Japanese maker. If I wasn't a broke cheapskate I would have gotten it just because I think that's cool
 
cody c said:
Per the title, which would you pick?

This is for something that might get some use in AB for moose, elk, bear. No plans of thick bush lion hunting or anything too dramatic.

If you were optic shopping, what would you choose 1.5-6x42, or 2.5-10x50 in your flavor brand if optic?

Or would you go with something else?
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To me a 1-5 or so is about right for a 458. Here is the reasoning and assumptions. This is intended for close range STOPPING, not distance shooting. Buy the best glass you can afford because the alpha glass at 1x is better than your naked eye at dusk. And 1 to 1.5 power allows one to see clearly with both eyes open while working pucker brush.

I had a Bushnell 4200 1.25 -4 x 24 on my 416 Rigby. Not alpha I found 4x was plenty for up to 200 yards but that near zero magnification was great for having both eyes open in thick brush.

What is the utility of two eyes open? Well, lets say your partners nephew shot and wounded a big black bear (in the foot as it turned out) and you and your partner have to go into the thickest regen you can imagine after this pissed off, wounded bear. Picture you are about 20 to 30 feet apart, one in the tube, holding that rifle ready to fire. Hard to explain but it is like time slows down. You catch a flash of movement out of your right eye. As you pivot with both eyes open, the right eye being on the reticle, the left eye keeping you in sync with your surroundings, you see the annoyed bruin coming around a root ball about 12 feet away, because there is no adjustment or delay one simply pulls the trigger and the bear drops dead.
 
cody c said:
Per the title, which would you pick?

This is for something that might get some use in AB for moose, elk, bear. No plans of thick bush lion hunting or anything too dramatic.

If you were optic shopping, what would you choose 1.5-6x42, or 2.5-10x50 in your flavor brand if optic?

Or would you go with something else?
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There is not so much difference in usability between a 1-4, 2-7, power scopes. Possibly the larger objective will gather more light.

1-4 (1.5x4.5, etc)power scopes are usually 20mm objective. 2-7 scopes are usually 32mm objective. 2.5x8 and 3-9 can be 32 or 40mm.

I would say - choose the eye relief, size of the objective lens, and the reticle style and then go from there. I like both 1-4x20 and 2-7x32 on rifles that may be used at fairly close range, and up to about 300 yards max.
 
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