45acp - auto / revolver
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I've put thousands of rounds through a Smith 625, no roll crimp. Standard taper works fine - this is what your factory crimp die will do. Besides, .451" bullets don't come with a canelure AFAIK. Never used a case gauge - the factory crimp die takes care of bulging etc. should you goof up somehow.
You can shoot your revolver with loose rounds if you somehow don't have moonclips around, and just pop the empties out with a thumbnail - if you use a taper crimp. With a roll crimp it would be moonclips or nothing.
Never needed a moonclip 'conditioner', but if you do then try http://www.moonclips.com/
Because of the cylinder gap (I suppose) you can load hotter for an equivalent speed. Some load books have different loads for pistol/revolver because of that.
A powder with minimal ejecta will keep your hands and action clean - I use Titegroup for that reason. Tried AA#5 - designed for .45acp - works great in a pistol, junk all over in the revolver.
You can shoot your revolver with loose rounds if you somehow don't have moonclips around, and just pop the empties out with a thumbnail - if you use a taper crimp. With a roll crimp it would be moonclips or nothing.
Never needed a moonclip 'conditioner', but if you do then try http://www.moonclips.com/
Because of the cylinder gap (I suppose) you can load hotter for an equivalent speed. Some load books have different loads for pistol/revolver because of that.
A powder with minimal ejecta will keep your hands and action clean - I use Titegroup for that reason. Tried AA#5 - designed for .45acp - works great in a pistol, junk all over in the revolver.
JohnC
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
ditto on the taper crimp - works fine in revolvers as well.
I have the conditioner (runs about $100 US with shipping etc)-works really well with the bent clips prevents them binding which they usually do otherwise on a speed reload at an IPSC short course.
while you're on the moonclips site an invaluable tool is a moonclip checker- it's a hard Delrin cylinder which duplicates your 625 cylinder- you can run the moonclips through it & identify the ones that will bind for whatever reason- splits in brass, bulges,etc.. - its the best piece of kit in my revolver shooting bag bar none.
for moonclips & holders the best deals are at www.cactustactical.com &yes they ship to Canada.
I have the conditioner (runs about $100 US with shipping etc)-works really well with the bent clips prevents them binding which they usually do otherwise on a speed reload at an IPSC short course.
while you're on the moonclips site an invaluable tool is a moonclip checker- it's a hard Delrin cylinder which duplicates your 625 cylinder- you can run the moonclips through it & identify the ones that will bind for whatever reason- splits in brass, bulges,etc.. - its the best piece of kit in my revolver shooting bag bar none.
for moonclips & holders the best deals are at www.cactustactical.com &yes they ship to Canada.
.45 ACP for revolver
There is another option you might wish to consider, .45 Auto Rim cases. Remington and Starline produce auto rim brass. I prefer auto rim brass to the ACP case and moon clip setup. Auto rim brass has the same dimensions as the ACP brass, except it has a rim much like any other revolver brass.
Regards,
Tim
There is another option you might wish to consider, .45 Auto Rim cases. Remington and Starline produce auto rim brass. I prefer auto rim brass to the ACP case and moon clip setup. Auto rim brass has the same dimensions as the ACP brass, except it has a rim much like any other revolver brass.
Regards,
Tim
JohnC
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Works quite well especially for bullseye shooting. An important reason for the moonclips is that in IPSC most people find the moonclips easier to use when reloading. Plus if you go to a big match where you might have to leave 300-400 brass on the ground it gets expensive whereas with the moonclips you get your brass back.LoneStar22 said:
JohnC said:Works quite well especially for bullseye shooting. An important reason for the moonclips is that in IPSC most people find the moonclips easier to use when reloading. Plus if you go to a big match where you might have to leave 300-400 brass on the ground it gets expensive whereas with the moonclips you get your brass back.
John- You make a good point. Leaving AR brass on the ground after an IPSC match, can put a dent in ones wallet.
I assume you're referring to a major IPSC match and not a club match. At club matches here in the US, shooters in a squad who have shot the stage shag brass, paste targets, etc, so brass loss is kept to a minimum. Another point, a revolver is not the gun of choice (sadly) for IPSC matches. However I understand IDPA matches are revolver friendly, so moon clips would be a natural.
Regrds,
Tim
JohnC
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
TIm:
yep I was referring to the major matches - provincials, nationals etc.
It's true that most of the IPSC courses of fire are optimized for autoloaders. However, those of us that shoot revolver have loads of fun and actually its more of an intellectual challenge since you have to plan your reloading points more carefully.
cheers
John
yep I was referring to the major matches - provincials, nationals etc.
It's true that most of the IPSC courses of fire are optimized for autoloaders. However, those of us that shoot revolver have loads of fun and actually its more of an intellectual challenge since you have to plan your reloading points more carefully.
cheers
John
