.45ACP for Standard Div Major?

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Hello to all IPSC shooters,

I'm trying to find out as much about IPSC as possible before I actually join the sport. I shoot casually already. Got a Norinco 1911 copy "Government", and a CZ Tactical Sport in .40. I know in the standard division most ppl shoot .40 for major. But does anyone shoot .45ACP? I had done a bit of work and swapped out some parts on the Norinco I would like ot see how it performs vs. other guns in matches later on. Would that be possible to do with a gun in .45ACP? Any opinion and feedback will be appreciated.
 
Most certainly. There are several active .45 ACP shooters. The biggest disadvantage is given the number of rounds you go through in an IPSC season, the cost of .40 brass is much cheaper than .45. Other than that, either choice is fine.
 
It comes down to what ever you are happy with be it 45 40 38super 9mm what ever , shoot the gun you are comfortable with and have fun.
 
There are lots of people who shoot 45. however if you look at the stats you will find that most people who are winning matches are shooting a 40. one of the theories is that a 40 cycles faster then a 45. having said that we have one fellow in Alberta who shots a 45 and has one standard division more then once. i know another fellow that if he ever wanted to could probably be the Canadain Champ if he shoot IPSC regularly and he shoots a 45.

my recomendation is that if you like the feel of the 45 shoot it. when you get to the point where you are competative, you will have the skill set to make the decision of what to shoot.
 
My wife shoots a Norinco 45 in IPSC, and finds it great now that we've got it "tuned up" a bit. The mags needed some breaking-in, and the spring was a bit heavy. Neither of us are super-competitive, but we have lots of fun :)
 
Musky Hunter said that the .45ACP is more expensive. Ok... but don't you pick up your brass after you are done shooting in a match? Or... that's not the case...?
 
Generally you may be permitted to pick brass after a match if its a smaller one. That means after whole match, not between stages or groups. So you can count on sticking around until the end of the day (or weekend if its a two day match. But usually any brass shot at a match stays there.

So you can count on keeping practice brass, but not match brass. And that means a match can get expensive. When I was shooting 10mm I often left as much $ value on the ground in brass as I paid in match fee.
 
i shot 45 for a season, around 3k i beleive. I lost close to 1/2 the brass. It is very hard to pickup brass at large matches. You are moving between 10+ stanges daily and you dont want to slow others down. Two or Three level 3 matches and there goes 1k of brass. Practicing at ranges is sometimes hard to gather brass; go to GRGC at summer and the grass is up to your ankles.

I switched to 9mm in Production.


Gasanwu said:
Musky Hunter said that the .45ACP is more expensive. Ok... but don't you pick up your brass after you are done shooting in a match? Or... that's not the case...?
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I Still shoot my .45 and love it.

But that said when it came time to get guns for my kids I went for .40 for my son and 9mm for my daughter.

The price of .45 brass as mentioned is pretty high. I have found a few thousand here and there to keep me going but I do fear that one day I too will have to switch.

Mind you I had such a blast on the weekend with my daughters G17 that I do not think I will mind it much in the end.
 
hello,
one of the reason why 40 is more popular other than brass cost, is that in other countries they are allowed of more than 10 rnds, as long it will fit in the "ipsc box" . and normally the 40 mags will accept more rounds, aside from that the 40 has no other advantage. I shoot 45 on my revolver
 
IPSC Costs

If you add up all costs of competing including travel and accomodation, the value of the spent brass is nothing. Have fun and try 40 calibre as a minor load ! Shoots well and does not cost a fortune. Commercial reloads in 40 [175 grain jacketed] cost $200/K and you can throw the brass away.

If you do not foolishly spend your money now, it will be taxed horribly and, worse yet, you may have to leave it to someone you really despise like a liberal !!
 
You know your two guns & you know which one just fits you better & you shoot better with it. so go with the one that you just perform better with.
re: .45, you can always use a lighter bullet in .45 to have a faster cycle of the slide & try lighter recoil spring as well.
for now, shoot which ever you gut is telling you to go with & get a feel for it. You can always change it, modify this & that as you go along.

All that said "REAL MEN SHOOT .45" :p :D :rolleyes:
 
I exclusively shoot .45 for IPSC. The balance is excellent, and since I reload, I have little to worry about loading minor or major (230 grains will always be major unless you really make a 'puff' load). Sure muzzle lift is greater than on 9 or 40, but I find the recoil to be less 'snappy'.

As for brass, I must be shooting with rich people, because I always find alot of fresh factory .45 Federal brass laying on the ground after a match... I started with 500 units of brass at the beggining of the season, now I have a 2 gallons bucket full (2500-3000 units)

Oh, and that's right... No matter what, 9 mm and 40 is still for boys and ladies :D
 
Thanks for all the input. I can shoot my .45 very accurately, but because of the muzzle flip, it seems much harder to shoot fast, maybe a tungsten guide rod would help a bit? My hand is a little too big for the single stack so my left hand, which is supposed to apply 70-80% of the gripping force, can't get a decent grip on the grip(I shoot with my right hand), and maybe a tad small for the CZ TS grip... What DO I DO???
 
Use your .45. Do not fear to be in disaventage to any .40.
.40 shooters load 180 and 200 grains bullet to make major. The difference between a .45 loaded the same, be with 185 grains or a lead 200 grains is very minimal. I had two STI ( sold the .40) , one in .40 and the other in .45 and the timer cannot tell the difference.

Do not worry, a lot of other factor are more important that this for a new shooter. Practice, practice, practice.
 
It may totally a personal preference, but I find my .45 quicker on the target than a .40. Sure muzzle flip on the 45 is heavier, but I do find the .40 recoil 'snappier' and I find that really uncomfortable.

The only advantage I can see in shooting .40 is that it is cheaper...
 
PoFF said:
The only advantage I can see in shooting .40 is that it is cheaper...
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If you shoot IPSC internationally, the big advantage to shooting .40 is mag capacity.....in Canada, the point is moot.
 
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