I am planning to reload for my .45acp and i have looked around a lot but can't find info on using imr 4227 in this round. does anyone know if this is possible? or is this powder not to be used in the .45? any info would b e appreciated. also any advice on the best powder for this calibre would be helpfull . Oh yes plan to use 230 gr cast wheelwiegts
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IMR 4227 is too slow burning for the .45 Auto, you're wasting your time, get you some faster burning powder, such as ww231, and have at 'er. Using a powder such as 4227 will give slow speeds, won't work the slide, and leave plenty of unburnt powder in your gun, to further gum things up.
Yes it's possible, but there are much better choices. - dan
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While I have used 4227 with 260 gr bullets in the .45AR and got good results, there are far better choices for the ACP.
Think W231, Bullseye, Universal Clays, Unique... that sort of thing...
blake
Think W231, Bullseye, Universal Clays, Unique... that sort of thing...
blake
If your supplier has IMR7625 I suggest that powder. All the above suggestions are good powders.
I like 7625 becasue it flows well though a powder meter. Some of the flake powders do not.
It is bulky. For your bullets you will want about 6 gr of 7625. A double charge of this will be very noticable, whereas a double charge of Bullseye or 231 might not be noticed.
I like 7625 becasue it flows well though a powder meter. Some of the flake powders do not.
It is bulky. For your bullets you will want about 6 gr of 7625. A double charge of this will be very noticable, whereas a double charge of Bullseye or 231 might not be noticed.
Maybe if your frickin blind! I use Bullseye for .45 target loads and a double charge is very obvious. I find 4.3 gr behind a 230gr fmj a great target load.
I believe 8.6 gr would be a compressed load. Pretty obvious to the non visually impaired.
As a handloader and target pistol shooter, I strive for highest velocities with the least amount of powder for the best bang for my buck.
I handload with lead bullets to shoot twice as much more ammo, or to just save money. Similarly I chose a powder that meets my needs.
Among four or five other powders, depending on availability, I chose Titegroup for 45 and 40 cal. rounds. Titegroup meters well and really does go a long way.
There are compromises depending on your choices. To meet my requirements, I may choose a powder that doesn't meter so well, (Universal Clays), but is cleaner burning and takes up more space in a case, over a powder that takes less space in the case to save money, but run the chance of not seeing a double charge go by. You have to choose what's best for you.
My choices for a 230 grain lead bullet in 45ACP, much like the OP inquires about, are in this order:
Titegroup, WIN231, Clays Universal, Bullseye.
Take note I believe that Bullseye is more suited for heavier lead bullets than FMJ ball for instance.
Ideally, I load my target loads with 230g Lead RN with 5.0 grains of Titegroup to get 850fps.
I use the same powders for my 40 cal handloads. I use 4.3 grains of Titegroup with a 180g lead semi wadcutter for the same 850 fps.
For 9mm FMJ, I like Power Pistol all around for the heavier FMJ bullets, 124 and 147 grain. Too bad they don't make Action Pistol any more.
What I would suggest to the OP is to not follow anyones recipes, get yourself a reliable handloading manual such as Hornady, Speer, Lyman, and read it. Go from there.
I handload with lead bullets to shoot twice as much more ammo, or to just save money. Similarly I chose a powder that meets my needs.
Among four or five other powders, depending on availability, I chose Titegroup for 45 and 40 cal. rounds. Titegroup meters well and really does go a long way.
There are compromises depending on your choices. To meet my requirements, I may choose a powder that doesn't meter so well, (Universal Clays), but is cleaner burning and takes up more space in a case, over a powder that takes less space in the case to save money, but run the chance of not seeing a double charge go by. You have to choose what's best for you.
My choices for a 230 grain lead bullet in 45ACP, much like the OP inquires about, are in this order:
Titegroup, WIN231, Clays Universal, Bullseye.
Take note I believe that Bullseye is more suited for heavier lead bullets than FMJ ball for instance.
Ideally, I load my target loads with 230g Lead RN with 5.0 grains of Titegroup to get 850fps.
I use the same powders for my 40 cal handloads. I use 4.3 grains of Titegroup with a 180g lead semi wadcutter for the same 850 fps.
For 9mm FMJ, I like Power Pistol all around for the heavier FMJ bullets, 124 and 147 grain. Too bad they don't make Action Pistol any more.
What I would suggest to the OP is to not follow anyones recipes, get yourself a reliable handloading manual such as Hornady, Speer, Lyman, and read it. Go from there.
Thank you all for your suggestions, My biggest problem is getting some of these powders. I guess I will have to take a day off and go to Edmonton and find them, although I think I'll try the titegroup as I have some of it in stock
You need a bit of roll crimp to get rid of the moth flare you put in the case so the bullets would go in easily. Don't get carried awy on the crimp or else it can put a little bulge in the case and it won't chamber.
The last position on my 45acp Dillon is a 6.5x55 FL die. It has a nice taper to it and makes sure none of the cases have a bulge.
The last position on my 45acp Dillon is a 6.5x55 FL die. It has a nice taper to it and makes sure none of the cases have a bulge.
"...need a bit of roll crimp..." No roll crimps at all with a .45 ACP. Taper crimp only(just enough to hold the bullet in place). The cartridge headspaces on the case mouth. If you roll crimp, you have no headspace.
Bullseye works just fine for 230 grain cast bullets. And it's very obvious if you've double charged it when loading target loads in either a .38 or .45.
Bullseye works just fine for 230 grain cast bullets. And it's very obvious if you've double charged it when loading target loads in either a .38 or .45.
"A double charge of this will be very noticable, whereas a double charge of Bullseye or 231 might not be noticed"
You have to be kidding. A double charge of 231 will blow your grips off, blow your mag out of your gun and if you are real lucky not take your gun apart. Don't ask how I know this! I was lucky.
Either you know nothing about hand loading or you are incredibly dumb for posting such a remark.
Titegroup is not particularly good in the .45acp. It builds pressure to slow. Get the right powder (231 works really well and meters consistantly out of most powder measures). Bullseye is also very good.
Take Care
Bob
ps Did I mention it will also wedge your case in the chamber, burn your hands, set back your cartrdges in your mag and scare the living daylights out of you.
You have to be kidding. A double charge of 231 will blow your grips off, blow your mag out of your gun and if you are real lucky not take your gun apart. Don't ask how I know this! I was lucky.
Either you know nothing about hand loading or you are incredibly dumb for posting such a remark.
Titegroup is not particularly good in the .45acp. It builds pressure to slow. Get the right powder (231 works really well and meters consistantly out of most powder measures). Bullseye is also very good.
Take Care
Bob
ps Did I mention it will also wedge your case in the chamber, burn your hands, set back your cartrdges in your mag and scare the living daylights out of you.
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