.45ACP reloading question

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I already reload 9mm and 7,62x39, with succes.

i want to start reloadin .45ACP.

First, i have two king of powder: 700-X and TiteGroup, wich one will be better for .45 acp ??

i will use Bullet campro RN 230gr

on the CamPro receip, the said the following for the two powder:

700 X 4,4 / 4,9
TiteGroup 4,4 /4,8

But, Hogdon database give me those number for 230 RN

700 X 4,5 / 5,0
TiteGroup 4,0 / 4,8


Why a difference between the two....and wich one i must use ????
 
I use 4.5gr of 700X for my loads. The isn’t a huge difference between the two powders and different companies will publish different data and always err on the side of caution, Always start at the minimum and load 5 rounds in .5gr increments. For my 1911 4.5 gr was the most accurate. Also note it is very easy to double charge a load as both titegroup and Hi-Skor 700x are not a bulky powder and a double charge will fit in the 45 acp casing with room to spare!
 
I use Ttegroup and 200 SWC cast or the Hornady 200 swc jacketed. I also prefer the 200 swc to the 230 round nose. The swc is very accurate and punch nice hole in paper...
 
Attilathecanuk said:
I use 4.5gr of 700X for my loads. The isn’t a huge difference between the two powders and different companies will publish different data and always err on the side of caution, Always start at the minimum and load 5 rounds in .5gr increments. For my 1911 4.5 gr was the most accurate. Also note it is very easy to double charge a load as both titegroup and Hi-Skor 700x are not a bulky powder and a double charge will fit in the 45 acp casing with room to spare!
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Thanks!!!!!!!
 
Different lot numbers of powders shot in different guns with different primers will give different results.

Use the START data and try several loads in 0.3 gr increments and choose the one that runs your gun and shoots well.

TiteGroup is a better choice of powder. It meters well. 700X is a flake powder and will not meter in some brands of powder throwers.
 
The Hodgdon database lists different sets of Titegroup load data for lead (4.0gr to 4.8gr) vs jacketed bullets (4.4gr to 4.8gr). For Campro plated bullets, if there is no equivalent plated bullet load data, I usually start with the jacketed load data and work up my loads from there.
 
Ganderite said:
Different lot numbers of powders shot in different guns with different primers will give different results.

Use the START data and try several loads in 0.3 gr increments and choose the one that runs your gun and shoots well.

TiteGroup is a better choice of powder. It meters well. 700X is a flake powder and will not meter in some brands of powder throwers.
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This. I use 700X for shotgun, and 45acp. It does not meter well. Recently picked up some Titegroup (I was also curious), wow, does it make reloading go faster when a powder meters.
 
I’ve made lots of with both powders and prefer 700x for my 45ACP loads. It doesn’t meter as well as titegroup but in my Dillon 550 I can get consistent charges if I’m mindful of throwing the lever the same every time. I can make them at the same speed only in my experience the 700x loads burn much cleaner. I run 4.6gr titegroup or 4.5 700X with a 230gr bullet.
 
As mentioned, it's easy to double charge a 45acp case without noticing with many powders. I've switched to bulkier powders that cannot be double charged without overflowing (or nearly so). I do this for both 9mm and 45acp. It's an easy way to prevent potential catastrophic issues. Just food for thought.
 
You never mentioned what the application was for. Plinking? Target? Bowling pins?

Campro makes great bullets but 230grain ball rounds would be my last choice. 200 grain bullets are cheaper, offer reduced recoil, & can cut a much nicer paper target hole.
4.0 grains of 700X works well for 230's but also for 200's too.
 
I prefer 700x. I've used titegroup and don't like it.

I read somewhere once (and can't find it now) that fast powders are better for the 1911 method of lockup. Supposedly keeps pressures where they should be through the unlocking process. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
VanMan said:
The Hodgdon database lists different sets of Titegroup load data for lead (4.0gr to 4.8gr) vs jacketed bullets (4.4gr to 4.8gr). For Campro plated bullets, if there is no equivalent plated bullet load data, I usually start with the jacketed load data and work up my loads from there.
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You are right .Campro state that you can use jacketed bullets datas for their bullets.

Composed of 98% lead and 2% antimony

Swaging leads to a greater weight uniformity

Complete traceability system for maximum quality control

Final cleaning and polishing before delivery

Can be used with standard reloading charts for jacketed bullets

Campro also provide some suggestions of loads with the usual disclaimer :

http://www.campro.ca/images/-45.ACP.230.RN.pdf
 
I stumbled on some powder coated lead 230 gr bullets TC (truncated Cone)for cheap and the label says to use an OAL of 1.110”.
Does anyone have experience with these bullets? I am using Titegroup and 700X for comparison.
 
I can attest to the double charge issue- blew up my JR Carbine just last week with what I'm sure was a double charge of Titegroup. However, accuracy was good.... even with the double charged round!
 
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