460 Weatherby Mag and the recoil threshold...

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Wow you guys are tough. My 308win is just right for me.

 

[Gibbs505]

Now my heaviest kicker is a lightweight 7 Rem Mag! It is fun!!

 

[Bronco Boy]

I think a persons size and pain tolerance are very big factors for handling recoil. Also, a person with history of contact sports may have an advantage over someone not used to getting hit. I weight 250 and used to be into kickboxing. I find my 300 RUM hits about as had as I want to handle on a regular basis. Just for "kicks" I would give any firearm a go once.

 

[huntinstuff]

460Wby is enough for me...Used to have one...used to being the key words. There was nothing around big enough to justify having it so I sold it. And Spruce Grove range doesnt allow the 460WBY to be fired at their range so it was no good to me.

 

[PE90SHOOTER]

460Wby is enough for me

Found out it was too much for me! I think that cartridge was a practical joke that Roy weatherby never got called on. May he RIP.

 

[Mauser98]

I loaded up some 420 grain bullets to 2,000 fps out of my 45-70 for 120 ft/lbs of recoil out of only an 8 pound rifle with a steel buttplate. I shot several round wearing a t-shirt. The first round recoil was noticeable. The second one started to hurt, the third round definitely hurt, and I found myself letting out a little yell of pain for rounds 4,5 and 6. At that point I wondered why I was using such a ridiculous load. After letting my friend get belted around bit, I took the remaining rounds home, pulled the bullets, and reloaded to more sane levels.

You might want to check your math.

More like 45 ft-lbs of recoil. It probably just felt like 120 lbs.

 

[Pblatzz]

416 Rigby, 400 gr bullet with 106 gr IMR 7071. Kicks a little. I load 45-70 with 50 gr of IMR 3031 with a 405 gr hard cast bullet. Ok recoil.

I'm looking for a 505 Gibbs next...

Regards

 

[Republic of Alberta]

A man has to know his limits. A 400g bullet at 2550fps shot from the bench out of my 416 Rigby is BEOND my limit.

Regular 400g loads from the 416 standing are not a big deal, Demonicals 458 Lott is not bad either.

 

[Wild_Thing]

While hunting, I have fired big boomers up to .378 Weatherby(not mine) is as far as I have gotten. Absolutely no desire to shoot those beasties off a bench for any length of time. I am comfortable with my .300 RUM Sendero or my .30-06 Mtn rifle

 

[Gibbs505]

416 Rigby, 400 gr bullet with 106 gr IMR 7071. Kicks a little. I load 45-70 with 50 gr of IMR 3031 with a 405 gr hard cast bullet. Ok recoil.

I'm looking for a 505 Gibbs next...
Regards

Get an P 14 or M1917 action that has already been sporterised and then get a hold of Bevan King. He will do the work on the action and build a barrel for you. I highly recommend him.

 

[Dustin]

I loaded up some 420 grain bullets to 2,000 fps out of my 45-70 for 120 ft/lbs of recoil out of only an 8 pound rifle with a steel buttplate. I shot several round wearing a t-shirt. The first round recoil was noticeable. The second one started to hurt, the third round definitely hurt, and I found myself letting out a little yell of pain for rounds 4,5 and 6. At that point I wondered why I was using such a ridiculous load. After letting my friend get belted around bit, I took the remaining rounds home, pulled the bullets, and reloaded to more sane levels.

Classy Kirk... Classy

 

[Pblatzz]

Get an P 14 or M1917 action that has already been sporterised and then get a hold of Bevan King. He will do the work on the action and build a barrel for you. I highly recommend him.

The fever is hitting me, The P-14 action is screaming to be modified. I will be hunting for one soon.

Pete

 

[Pathfinder]

Ill have to agree that the Nagant was unpleasant to shoot. The M-44 Carbine I had Stopped being fun after 5 rounds......

Good Idea about the P-14, I have one in the Safe begging me to be rebarrelled to 375 H&H.

 

[pricedo]

.416 Remington Magnum shoulder breaker.

I took a Remington Model 700 in .416 Remington Magnum and cut the stock culvert pipe of a barrel to 22" & recrowned it. I replaced the wooden stock with a synthetic stock. I put a Williams graduated aperture peep sight on it and installed an adjustable Timney trigger. The rifle weight 9 lbs. and kicks like a mule.

I'm definitely going to install an internal magna-port style muzzle break ASAP.

 

[thesilverfox]

I loaded up some 420 grain bullets to 2,000 fps out of my 45-70 for 120 ft/lbs of recoil out of only an 8 pound rifle with a steel buttplate. /

Sorry but that 41.25 ft/lbs of recoil.

 

[Seawood77]

Had a bud hand me his Ruger # 1 .458 WM and two handloads. I handed it back with one shell. I love all guns and not the least bit recoil sensitive but really gotta wonder what is wrong with people who enjoy that type of self-abuse.

 

[Gibbs505]

Had a bud hand me his Ruger # 1 .458 WM and two handloads. I handed it back with one shell. I love all guns and not the least bit recoil sensitive but really gotta wonder what is wrong with people who enjoy that type of self-abuse.

Did he offer to sell it to you?

 

[Boomer]

Had a bud hand me his Ruger # 1 .458 WM and two handloads. I handed it back with one shell. I love all guns and not the least bit recoil sensitive but really gotta wonder what is wrong with people who enjoy that type of self-abuse.

I personally think you over state the effect of recoil, but everyone is different. It could be the stock did not fit you particularly well, and this is bad news when the recoil level increases much above that of the .30-06. A pal of mine let me shoot his .50 caliber Hawken rifle, and it only took one round for me to know that wasn't for me, but conversely he didn't think much of my .416 Rigby or for that matter my .375 Ultra. Generally speaking, anyone who is physically capable of playing contact sports can learn to handle moderate to heavy recoil without undue difficulty.

The correct way to learn to handle recoil well is first of all to recognise that these things are designed to be used by normal people. Once that has been digested, the path is easier. The rifle must fit you, and if scoped, the sight must be far enough forward that it will not hit you. Begin shooting off hand with loads that you can manage, and over time increase the charges until you reach the maximum load for that rifle. Once you can confidently fire full powered loads, then you can begin to shoot from field positions. It might be that a grain or two below max is more tolerable. It is unlikely that this will make much difference to the effectiveness of a powerful rifle, and could make the rifle far more tolerable to shoot.