5.56 sks

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Inaccurate ?
I group sub MOA with my Russian. ? I did put peep sights on it, and tuned the trigger a little, and I don’t stretch it beyond 200 yards.
It’s a battle rifle, not a sniper rifle.

frabill said:
Honestly what stopped me from buying an sks is they're inaccurate AF and most 762x39 is corrosive. Call me lazy but I don't wanna stripe a 200 gun down after each session. I ran non corrosive out of my cz858 until I was out of ammo then sold it. If sks came in 223 I likely would have a few.
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jeepguy1 said:
Did I say LR ??
.003” does not require clarification to intelligent people.
These small caliber firearms don’t have real stopping power.
I remember hearing the 556 whizzing by day after day, and not even flinching. However when you hear the 762.... you learn what sand tastes like.
Example... I had a 556 round bounce off of my helmet while on my head. It rang my bell, but never stopped my return fire.
A different time, my helmet was hanging on a fence post and we came hot. An AK put a round cleanly through my helmet.....

Now do you understand why I feel as I do ??
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Nope, stopping power is a myth, proper shot placement will do more to stop a person than the caliber you're shooting, tons of people have been killed by .22 LR thanks to one well placed shot, tons of people have survived entire magazines of .45 ACP because of poorly placed shots, a person doesn't stop when they get shot because the bullet hit them hard, they stop because of the bullet damaging their body, Newton's Third Law dictates that the force of the recoil will be equal to that of the bullet itself. Thus, for a projectile to stop a person in the manner people use to describe "stopping power", the recoil would have to knock the shooter down.

There's a reason why many nations use 5.56 for their standard issue rifles, there's a reason why the Russians ditched 7.62x39 and designed the 5.45mm round in response to the 5.56, there's a reason why you'll often see more 223 on the shelves of gun stores than 7.62x39, there's a reason why basically the only people left using 7.62x39 are poor countries and insurgents. Am I saying the 5.56 is perfect? No, but it's a proven round that many benefits over 7.62x39, and is trusted by people all over the world for self defense whether that be a LEO or a civilian at home, and has been used to take the lives of many bad guys and good guys.

If it was as weak and pathetic as you exaggerate it to be it wouldn't be nearly as popular as a round as it is, just like how people always harp on 9mm being a pansy baby round and say all you need is a 1911 in .45 because all you need is 7 shots, meanwhile 9mm is the most popular defensive handgun cartridge there is. Modern loading allows us to get exceptional performance out of these "small" calibers. I'm sure you wouldn't be walking it off if got hit center mass.
 
Yutrzenika said:
Nope, stopping power is a myth, proper shot placement will do more to stop a person than the caliber you're shooting, tons of people have been killed by .22 LR thanks to one well placed shot, tons of people have survived entire magazines of .45 ACP because of poorly placed shots, a person doesn't stop when they get shot because the bullet hit them hard, they stop because of the bullet damaging their body, Newton's Third Law dictates that the force of the recoil will be equal to that of the bullet itself. Thus, for a projectile to stop a person in the manner people use to describe "stopping power", the recoil would have to knock the shooter down.

There's a reason why many nations use 5.56 for their standard issue rifles, there's a reason why the Russians ditched 7.62x39 and designed the 5.45mm round in response to the 5.56, there's a reason why basically the only people left using 7.62x39 are poor countries and insurgents. Am I saying the 5.56 is perfect? No, but it's a proven round that many benefits over 7.62x39, and is trusted by people all over the world for self defense whether that be a LEO or a civilian at home, and has been used to take the lives of many bad guys and good guys.

If it was as weak and pathetic as you exaggerate it to be it wouldn't be nearly as popular as a round as it is, just like how people always harp on 9mm being a pansy baby round and say all you need is a 1911 in .45 because all you need is 7 shots, meanwhile 9mm is the most popular defensive handgun cartridge there is. Modern loading allows us to get exceptional performance out of these "small" calibers.
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How dare you come apply logic reason and fact to this lol
 
Apply some personal real world combat experience, then come back and talk to me.
Until then, I can only ask you If it is difficult to breath with your head so far up your ass ?

Numbers on paper mean #### all when you are in the field.

Yutrzenika said:
Nope, stopping power is a myth, proper shot placement will do more to stop a person than the caliber you're shooting, tons of people have been killed by .22 LR thanks to one well placed shot, tons of people have survived entire magazines of .45 ACP because of poorly placed shots, a person doesn't stop when they get shot because the bullet hit them hard, they stop because of the bullet damaging their body, Newton's Third Law dictates that the force of the recoil will be equal to that of the bullet itself. Thus, for a projectile to stop a person in the manner people use to describe "stopping power", the recoil would have to knock the shooter down.

There's a reason why many nations use 5.56 for their standard issue rifles, there's a reason why the Russians ditched 7.62x39 and designed the 5.45mm round in response to the 5.56, there's a reason why you'll often see more 223 on the shelves of gun stores than 7.62x39, there's a reason why basically the only people left using 7.62x39 are poor countries and insurgents. Am I saying the 5.56 is perfect? No, but it's a proven round that many benefits over 7.62x39, and is trusted by people all over the world for self defense whether that be a LEO or a civilian at home, and has been used to take the lives of many bad guys and good guys.

If it was as weak and pathetic as you exaggerate it to be it wouldn't be nearly as popular as a round as it is, just like how people always harp on 9mm being a pansy baby round and say all you need is a 1911 in .45 because all you need is 7 shots, meanwhile 9mm is the most popular defensive handgun cartridge there is. Modern loading allows us to get exceptional performance out of these "small" calibers. I'm sure you wouldn't be walking it off if got hit center mass.
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Davidkjs1 said:
How dare you come apply logic reason and fact to this lol
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It's not easy, I have to go and read things and have an open mind, but I imagine it's easier to ignore years of studies and scientific advancement on ballistics and base all my logic on hearsay and misinformation.

jeepguy1 said:
Apply some personal real world combat experience, then come back and talk to me.
Until then, I can only ask you If it is difficult to breath with your head so far up your ass ?

Numbers on paper mean #### all when you are in the field.
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I don't have to get hit in the head with a baseball bat to tell you that it would hurt.
 
I’ve personally seen guys shoulder hit with 556, and also 762.
The 556 guy saw the medic at the end of the fight, the 762 guy saw the father.

The FACT is that if you have body armour and a 556 hits Center of mass, it’s gonna hurt like hell, but you’ll recover.
If that same hit is with a 762, it’s all over.

Don’t argue real life experience with “facts” that you got out of a load data book.
Go do it, let’s talk after you get back.

As for the .45 Vs the 9mm.
1 45 usually stops them. I’ve watched guys “walk through” several 9mm rounds.
AGAIN with the EXPERIENCE thing.... go get some for yourself.

Paper logic is great for a paper argument.
 
jeepguy1 said:
Inaccurate ?
I group sub MOA with my Russian. ? I did put peep sights on it, and tuned the trigger a little, and I don’t stretch it beyond 200 yards.
It’s a battle rifle, not a sniper rifle.
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Alright prove it because you'll have the 1 and only sub MOA sks on this site.
 
jeepguy1 said:
With 2334 posts on this site, I’m going to call you an internet expert !!
How do you even find any real trigger time ?
Your moms basement cozy ??
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I have my own range so it's easy to browse the internet and shoot without any range Nazis freaking out at me.....
 
This guys great, he has a sub MOA SKS, and thinks 7.62 (of any designation) hits armor harder than 5.56.

5.56 xm193 out of a 20" (3100fps) barrel will pass clean through most LVL 3 plates, same plates stops 7.62x39 black tips ffs. It's why companies offer lvl 3+plates, specifically for the threat a fast 5.56 offers, lol.

Mind you, he's also seen guys walk through 9mm hits, while others were dropped by a .45. A god damned combat legend he is.

His delusions are obvious. A certified internet bad ass.
 
All I can tell you guys is what I’ve seen first hand. I won’t try to pass off all the bull#### that magazines and tech books spread around.
When you are in the ####, you learn real fast that big guns do more damage than little guns.

Yes, I am a combat vet. I think you’ve figured that out.
Do I care about your opinion of me ??
Why would I ??

I’m no marksman, but I hold my own and Ive made each one count when I’ve needed to. Hence, I’m still here to have this conversation with you.

I don’t care if you prefer a 556 or a 9mm over something bigger that has a greater capacity to do damage. It really doesn’t matter what you prefer.
Physics has laws, and those laws state that E=MC2.
Deny that and you’ll prove your lack of understanding.
 
jeepguy1 said:
I don’t care if you prefer a 556 or a 9mm over something bigger that has a greater capacity to do damage. It really doesn’t matter what you prefer.
Physics has laws, and those laws state that E=MC2.
Deny that and you’ll prove your lack of understanding.
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LOL this on top of your sub-MOA SKS and fake combat stories makes you this years winner. Your type never disappoints. I mean, 7.62 vs body armor = death according to you, who are we to question such a respected source.

So how many guys did you see "walk through" 9mm fire in a combat zone ? Were you on the winning team of this video game ?
 
Now I'm just here for the popcorn factor

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