5.56 vs something bigger

[Reaper]

I believe the 5.56 is a good combat round as the recoil is minimal giving you the oppertunity to quickly reaquire your target for follow up, todays combat enviroment is taking place mostly in the urban setting and shots rarely exceed more than 25o yards.

Experience in Afghanistan is quite the opposite with engagements taking place well beyond 250 yds. You should research more and post less my friend.

 

[greentips]

Giving people a bigger hammer is not going to aid them in hitting the nail.

Smashing the table doesn't count!

 

[Reaper]

The C7 and C8 ARE a superior general issue assault rifles that can do the vast majority of jobs that an infantryman is expected to be performing with acceptable lethality. Inside 300 yards the C7 is plenty lethal, and the lighter handling will be much more appreciated when you're going up flights of stairs clearing a building.

Outside of 300 yards is the job for the marksmen with a specialized sniper platform, with heavier optics and a bigger heavier rifle, because he'll only be carrying maybe 100 to 200 rounds or so.

If it's too many troops for the DM, then you've plenty of other options too.

1) The 60mm mortar

2) The Carl G has HE rounds.

3) The M203A1

4) The Stryker's M2 browning machine gun

5) Heavier armor

6) Artillery

7) Close air support

Not too rain on your parade but Designated Marksman are not as common as you seem to think, and use a combination of 7.62 and 5.56mm weapons. Canada has no dedicated DM program.
We don't use the Stryker, we have the LAV III with a 25mm M242 Bushmaster Cannon and a co-axial mounted 7.62mm MG.
In cases of engagement at ranges beyond the effective range of the rifleman, the C9 LMG,C6 GPMG are used along with the M19 60mm Mortar in most cases,if Supporting Arms are available they will be used if authorized .
The M203 and M2/M3 Carl Gustav are used against point targets as a general rule. The M203 has the capability to engage troops in the open, but depending on the skill of the operator is not as effective as other dedicated support weapons.

 

[Reaper]

My apologies for digressing with the C7 and C1 thing. I think that 5.56 is an excellent round within its limitations. Especially if I have to carry the ammo.

No problem here, I like the old warhorse, but no way in hell would I rely on one in Afghanistan

 

[Starscream]

Not too rain on your parade but Designated Marksman are not as common as you seem to think, and use a combination of 7.62 and 5.56mm weapons. Canada has no dedicated DM program.
We don't use the Stryker, we have the LAV III with a 25mm M242 Bushmaster Cannon and a co-axial mounted 7.62mm MG.
In cases of engagement at ranges beyond the effective range of the rifleman, the C9 LMG,C6 GPMG are used along with the M19 60mm Mortar in most cases,if Supporting Arms are available they will be used if authorized .
The M203 and M2/M3 Carl Gustav are used against point targets as a general rule. The M203 has the capability to engage troops in the open, but depending on the skill of the operator is not as effective as other dedicated support weapons.

Well my point is still valid, within it's limitations the C7 does well and there are several other tools to cover what the infantryman's rifle cannot do that are specialized in their role and excel at it.

 

[Reaper]

Well my point is still valid, within it's limitations the C7 does well and there are several other tools to cover what the infantryman's rifle cannot do that are specialized in their role and excel at it.

Your point was disguised with untruths and wrong information,some basic research would have made it easier to grasp.

 

[bogie]

I am wondering why they would not have considered the already available 243. And that Grendal looks a little like a WSM.