50 beowolf pistol ?
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LAR Mags?
If someone brings these in, or makes them from scratch, they would be rich, and I would buy a lot.
You're talking about Beo Pistol mags right ? Lar mag are already a common item up here.
Your wording is a bit confusing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVtTJqWlxJc
now why are there no 50 beo pistol mags
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.Now to answer your question the video tells us this was made off of a 80% lower. The law is different in the US than in Canada of course and we require a "readily available" pistol with purpose built mags to support it. I'm not 100% on California law but I'm pretty sure these guys can run 10 round AA .50beo rifle mags in their home built pistol so long as they keep in mind federal and state law in their pistol build.
So, from what I understand, as the story goes, down in the USA, they also have some very odd laws, much like we do up here.
A rifle with a barrel 16" or less, is an SBR, and is there version of "restricted" and they need special paperwork for it. A tax stamp they call it. Think of it as a $200 registration fee, per SBR rifle you own. However, pistols down there are for the most part, "non-restricted", so to get around this silly law, they simply took the stock off of the AR, and it legally becomes a pistol.
Up here, the pistol/rifle class controversy is all about mag capacity, down there, it's all about avoiding registration.
Some states have a capacity limitation from what I understand. Except down there it's 10 rounds instead of 5. |
So they made special 10 round mags for the AR to accommodate those restrictions, and they spilled over up here in the form of the LAR mag.
However, as you cannot really put more then 10 rounds of BEO in a standard 30 round mag, I image there is no reason for AA to ever make a special pistol mag as the standard rounds are already legally limited by nature.
That being said, from what I understand, AA has active patents on the 50 beo system and it's not yet an open source caliber. So unless they specifically make pistols for the Canadian market, we are SOL.
Based on what I've read of our laws, in order for a Mag to qualify as a pistol mag, there has to be a gun, legally classed up here as a pistol that that mag would fit.
And in order for a gun to be classed up here as a pistol, it has to be made by a legit manufacture as a pistol of that caliber, and not just a motiuk or Dlask custom label jobby.
THEN someone could make a pistol mag specifically for that gun, and get it ok'ed by the RCMP.
It's a running in circles situation, mostly thwarted by they fast that the 50 Beo, is a patented caliber controlled specifically by the one company. Even if someone wanted to make a pistol for the CDN market, they'd have to go thru' AA to make it happen legally, and it's just not worth the effort, cause after all, the end game is to sell mags and not the actual pistols themselves. The Beo is a very niche market appealing only to those who can afford to shoot it, and I really doubt the sales of Beo rifles is great enough up here for any manufactures to make the effort.
Something like that anyway, I'm not an expert so don't quote me on it, just sharing what I think I know of the situation.
A rifle with a barrel 16" or less, is an SBR, and is there version of "restricted" and they need special paperwork for it. A tax stamp they call it. Think of it as a $200 registration fee, per SBR rifle you own. However, pistols down there are for the most part, "non-restricted", so to get around this silly law, they simply took the stock off of the AR, and it legally becomes a pistol.
Up here, the pistol/rifle class controversy is all about mag capacity, down there, it's all about avoiding registration.
Some states have a capacity limitation from what I understand. Except down there it's 10 rounds instead of 5. |
So they made special 10 round mags for the AR to accommodate those restrictions, and they spilled over up here in the form of the LAR mag.
However, as you cannot really put more then 10 rounds of BEO in a standard 30 round mag, I image there is no reason for AA to ever make a special pistol mag as the standard rounds are already legally limited by nature.
That being said, from what I understand, AA has active patents on the 50 beo system and it's not yet an open source caliber. So unless they specifically make pistols for the Canadian market, we are SOL.
Based on what I've read of our laws, in order for a Mag to qualify as a pistol mag, there has to be a gun, legally classed up here as a pistol that that mag would fit.
And in order for a gun to be classed up here as a pistol, it has to be made by a legit manufacture as a pistol of that caliber, and not just a motiuk or Dlask custom label jobby.
THEN someone could make a pistol mag specifically for that gun, and get it ok'ed by the RCMP.
It's a running in circles situation, mostly thwarted by they fast that the 50 Beo, is a patented caliber controlled specifically by the one company. Even if someone wanted to make a pistol for the CDN market, they'd have to go thru' AA to make it happen legally, and it's just not worth the effort, cause after all, the end game is to sell mags and not the actual pistols themselves. The Beo is a very niche market appealing only to those who can afford to shoot it, and I really doubt the sales of Beo rifles is great enough up here for any manufactures to make the effort.
Something like that anyway, I'm not an expert so don't quote me on it, just sharing what I think I know of the situation.
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So can we get NEA or the like to start manufacturing these?
So can we get NEA or the like to start manufacturing these?
Did you miss the part about PATENTED CALIBRE?
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I know, but a guy can dream, can't he?
did you miss the part on NEA's facebook page where they say .50cal Beowulf mags are on the way?
North Eastern Arms Working on .50 Beo mags.
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Scott Smith Awesome. That has made my day!!
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The .50 Beowulf cartridge is not patented. Alexander Arms only holds a trademark on the name/calibre. It is for this reason that it's tricky to deal with .50 Beowulf stuff in the US, where the trademark exists, but not so tricky outside the US, where it hasn't been extended to.
"12.7x42mm" isn't patented. AR Stoner and Stern both make barrels and enlarged ejection port uppers for this calibre.
That being said, I doubt we'll ever see a Beowulf "Pistol" in the Canadian Market. There wouldn't be enough demand for it and I don't see a company developing it just to sell the mags. Would be nice though!
That being said, I doubt we'll ever see a Beowulf "Pistol" in the Canadian Market. There wouldn't be enough demand for it and I don't see a company developing it just to sell the mags. Would be nice though!
If they sell the mags for $100, I can't see the profit margin being small..
