50 beowulf AR..opinions on this caliber

griffin86 said:
I think Brian is trying to explain an opaque law so someone doesn't get in trouble, not trying to fk us.
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Exactly, with having NR versions of these calibers and actively use them while hunting, I am exposed to more scrutiny from CO's and the RCMP while they are actively looking to enforce the regulations than most with these calibers.

Feel free to ignore what I have said, don't be surprised if you end up in trouble for re branding and pinning 223 mags for different calibers and capacity.
 
griffin86 said:
I think Brian is trying to explain an opaque law so someone doesn't get in trouble, not trying to fk us.

You can't take a 223 magazine pinned for 5 rounds, re pin it for 5 rounds of 50 Beowulf and be legal.
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TRG-42 never suggested that you re-pin a 50Beowulf. He suggested re-pinning a 458 Socom with a single shot follower.
This single shot follower will not allow even a single round of 5.56 to be loaded into it.
 
thump_rrr said:
TRG-42 never suggested that you re-pin a 50Beowulf. He suggested re-pinning a 458 Socom with a single shot follower.
This single shot follower will not allow even a single round of 5.56 to be loaded into it.
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Yes it will, you just have to keep stuffing them in, it will naturally double stack and lock on the top lips, look at my pic of the stanag mag with a smooth follower as to how proprietary single stack big bore AR mags are manufactured to prevent this

There is no such thing as a 458 Socom magazine, only a modified 223, nobody makes a proprietary magazine for that caliber that I have seen
 
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Deckard said:
Sounds self-centered, a kind of Fuddism. It's a kind of notoriety you're aiming for I guess.
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Not at all, rather not see someone's life ruined for a mistake. I all too well know the costs of going to court to prove your innocence.

There is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty once you have seen how it really works first hand
 
Brian46 said:
which is false, There needs to be internal limiters that prevent you from double stacking 223/556 rounds regardless of follower shape. Those limiters are steel and part of the magazine body formed at time of manufacture, not a modification to a 223/556 magazine that can be removed at any time
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As I said, I'm basing my observations on his statements.

Not sure I agree with your "removed at anytime" statement though. Disassembling and reassembling a magazine with different parts isn't really any less work than removing and reinstalling a pop rivet.

I feel the need to emphasize at this time that I am in no way, shape, or form advise anyone to gamble against the firearms laws.
 
rkm456 said:
As I said, I'm basing my observations on his statements.

Not sure I agree with your "removed at anytime" statement though. Disassembling and reassembling a magazine with different parts isn't really any less work than removing and reinstalling a pop rivet.

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look at his pics, if you push more rounds in the mag the next layer above the single centered round will double stack on its own if loading the 223/556 rounds that mag was made for. There is nothing in his modification of the 223 mag that prevents this.

Removing the pin that limits capacity is illegal in the first place if you want to get technical
 
thump_rrr said:
TRG-42 never suggested that you re-pin a 50Beowulf. He suggested re-pinning a 458 Socom with a single shot follower.
This single shot follower will not allow even a single round of 5.56 to be loaded into it.
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He didn't say he took a 458 magazine a re-pinned it. If there was 458 Socom magazines in Canada, he wouldn't have to pin it. He is better off using Beowulf magazines. The single shot follower won't allow 1-3 rounds, but after that it double stack and hold more.



Just buy a single shot follower ( Sinclair( Brownells ) make a nice one ) and install it into a mag and rivit at location to fit 5 rds of the Socom
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Brian46 said:
look at his pics, if you push more rounds in the mag the next layer above the single centered round will double stack on its own if loading the 223/556 rounds that mag was made for. There is nothing in his modification of the 223 mag that prevents this.

Removing the pin that limits capacity is illegal in the first place if you want to get technical
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I don't have the mag in front of me, so I have to take his word for it.

I understand that removing a limiting pin is illegal. I was simply making the observation that what he has there isn't any less "permanent" than what is accepted as other manners of limiting magazine capacity.
 
I have one and it is a blast to shoot, the boom and the gong flying is an attention getter for sure. You will need to reload, and its slow enough you can cast your own bullets.
My local indoor range allows me to shoot it as well as my outdoor and pumpkin shoots are so fun.

That being said it should not be your first AR though .223/556 should be your first one imho.
 
rkm456 said:
I don't have the mag in front of me, so I have to take his word for it.

I understand that removing a limiting pin is illegal. I was simply making the observation that what he has there isn't any less "permanent" than what is accepted as other manners of limiting magazine capacity.
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What he has done is not legal in canada
 
My apologies to all for giving bad advice regarding the magazine conversion

Thanks to everyone who pointed this out
 
Why does every Beowulf thread have to end with pages of magazine BS? It's been years now guys, lets give it a rest.

To the OP, if you're still following this thread. The Beowulf is a great round to shoot. I compare it to shooting 12ga slugs.

If you're limited to shooting it on an indoor range, I have to caution you to how loud it is. It will definitely ring your bell!

Reloading can be a little finicky, but once you've got a good recipe, you're all set. I found a good mix with 335g RN bullets with Lil Gun powder. I didn't see the need to load heavy bullets, as I'm only shooting it at paper or the occasional over ripe piece of produce.

PM me if you have any specific questions.
 
If it was me I would build a 300BLK rifle, it uses the same AR everything other than the barrel and since you're a handloader you will love that you can load every 30 cal bullet from 110-220 grains and play supersonic or subsonic. No magazine modifications no special parts.
I have 3 rifles chambered in 300BLK and love them all. The 50 Beowulf is a very intriguing round but I just can't justify it in a restricted rifle. I would consider it in my ACR but I can just use my 300BLK conversion in my ACR for deer hunting if I want to. The heavier 300BLK loads really rock the gong which puts a good smile on your face. It's nice loading wih the most common caliber of projectiles available. Also, reloading with 20ish grains of powder per charge is nice as well since a pound of powder goes a long way.
I like the idea of the 50 Beowulf but it's going to cost a lot more to load. With the 300BLK you can also simply make your own brass from 223 brass which is fun and cheap as well.

Whatever you decide be sure to post some pics and a range report when you're finished
 
I had brought up the .458 Socom as an alternative to the .50 beowulf. I was just talking to Marshall and they will be adding the .458 Socom to NrCan through Buffalo Bore. Buffalo Bore has 7 different loading's of .458 Socom they produce. Should be available in the next couple of months, so there will be more choices in commercially loaded ammunition for large bore AR rifles in Canada
 
Gatehouse said:
No ammo sorta kills it for me....I don't want to load that much ammo. :(
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The difference between 450 bushmaster and 50 Beowulf is pretty small. Ellwood Epps has 450 ammo in stock, I bought some for $28 for 20. Sorry for the potato photo. 250 gr FTX vs 300 gr FTX

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