50 BMG and accuracy

"...with good match ammo..." That being the key. And having a range that will make the whole thing worthwhile. Not much point shooting one or either at 100 yards.
 
Everybody after firing one shot says "hey that wasn't too bad" lol....There is a cumulative effect as anybody who has shot a lot of 50 cal will tell you...Personally speaking 20 rounds in a day is plenty for me (these days).

As for barrel length we offer 28-30" from stock inventory and it seems to work well..extra length would garner some modest velocity increase but these rifles are already big enough IMHO...
 
I shot 80 rounds of suppressed 50 about 2 months ago and I was pulling cotton from my t shirt out of my shoulder the next day. Its a beast
 
Without starting another thread....what do you 50BMG owners/builders consider optimum barrel length for the 50? I notice the AI has only a 27" barrel....

I haven't shot mine yet, but before buying I obviously looked into it a lot. Here's what I found:

30-36" for civilian shooters seems to be the norm. Military rifles often have shorter such as the Tac50 at 29". 36" is the longest I've seen. You gain velocity but eventually you hit diminishing returns. Keep in mind military rifles tend to have other considerations to keep in mind such as being able to transport the rifle.

I went with an HS50 as it has a 33" barrel and the bullpup configuration keeps the length down. An HS50 with a 33" barrel for example is 54" in length. A Tac50 with a 29" barrel is 57" in length. The PGW has a folding stock for transportation to help shorten it. The HS50 comes apart in two pieces but is only practical for long term storage in this form.

There is no right or wrong answer to this. Look at the 308. You see 16", 20", 24", 26" etc. Shorter barrels are said to be stiffer, but you get less velocity. You might be able to load hotter to make up for that, but that's only if you can safely hit that accuracy node when reloading. In many cases the accuracy loading for the shorter barrel is exactly the same as that of the longer which means you bite the velocity difference.

Everything is a compromise. Depends on what you want.
 
Everybody after firing one shot says "hey that wasn't too bad" lol....There is a cumulative effect as anybody who has shot a lot of 50 cal will tell you...Personally speaking 20 rounds in a day is plenty for me (these days).

I cheerfully defer to those with more experience than me, such as you and swissinn but probably also a number of others here too. Thanks so much for info. I fired about 5rds but certainly no more than 10rds that day, so well below the level that you and swissinn are talking about. It was a demo rifle set up by an ammo vendor (General Dynamics perhaps), I shot it on my electronic target and they seemed to think that it was pretty neat to see the location of each shot fired. At the end of the day, taking down the target, it was pretty neat to see a bunch of half inch holes in the targetboard - very distinctive!

"hey that wasn't too bad", what a good way to put it. The first time you fire a .50BMG, having heard about it and thought about it for years and years, you sort of expect that the world might possibly end when you break the shot, or at the very least your face and shoulder are going to have very very serious regrets. When you're not actually *injured* from the experience, yeah it's a pretty powerful relief!!!
 
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I haven't shot mine yet, but before buying I obviously looked into it a lot. Here's what I found:

30-36" for civilian shooters seems to be the norm. Military rifles often have shorter such as the Tac50 at 29". 36" is the longest I've seen. You gain velocity but eventually you hit diminishing returns. Keep in mind military rifles tend to have other considerations to keep in mind such as being able to transport the rifle.

I went with an HS50 as it has a 33" barrel and the bullpup configuration keeps the length down. An HS50 with a 33" barrel for example is 54" in length. A Tac50 with a 29" barrel is 57" in length. The PGW has a folding stock for transportation to help shorten it. The HS50 comes apart in two pieces but is only practical for long term storage in this form.

There is no right or wrong answer to this. Look at the 308. You see 16", 20", 24", 26" etc. Shorter barrels are said to be stiffer, but you get less velocity. You might be able to load hotter to make up for that, but that's only if you can safely hit that accuracy node when reloading. In many cases the accuracy loading for the shorter barrel is exactly the same as that of the longer which means you bite the velocity difference.

Everything is a compromise. Depends on what you want.

I really like HS 50 , great firearm at this price. One day I will buy this ,,,,,Steyr win many competitions ...

Steyr Wins FCSA World Championship... 2012 and 2011 with an out-of-the-box Steyr HS.50

Can you show Rifle apart in two pieces ?
 
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Everybody after firing one shot says "hey that wasn't too bad" lol....There is a cumulative effect as anybody who has shot a lot of 50 cal will tell you...Personally speaking 20 rounds in a day is plenty for me (these days).

As for barrel length we offer 28-30" from stock inventory and it seems to work well..extra length would garner some modest velocity increase but these rifles are already big enough IMHO...

This is very true. 20rds is about all I shoot during any given outing. Recoil is not an issue but the concusive effect is fatiguing and starts to takes a toll. My Steyr is not great in this regard. The brake, while excellent at mitigating recoil directs a lot of over-pressure back toward the shooter. A friends LRT-3 is far more pleasant to shoot for extended periods. The brake isn't as efficient from a recoil perspective but far more comfortable in regard to muzzle blast.
 
That new brake that the LRT 3 has is really good. I believe its made in Switzerland and has the ratchet style suppressor that goes right over it. We in the CF need this badly!
 
This is very true. 20rds is about all I shoot during any given outing. Recoil is not an issue but the concusive effect is fatiguing and starts to takes a toll. My Steyr is not great in this regard. The brake, while excellent at mitigating recoil directs a lot of over-pressure back toward the shooter. A friends LRT-3 is far more pleasant to shoot for extended periods. The brake isn't as efficient from a recoil perspective but far more comfortable in regard to muzzle blast.

We have THE cure for this. A simple replacement of the factory brake will solve this for you.

I agree that recoil is not the issue but muzzle blast/concussion.
I put 186 rounds through 1 of my 50s at the 2010 50 cal shoot we put on. Shoulder was fine, the head ache however lasted for 2 days.
 
I agree about the muzzle blast being more of a concern than recoil, i upgraded from a trg 338 to a pgw lrt 50 and i could shoot the 338 much more accurately due to less recoil but the big thing after 10 or so shots the percussion blast really gets to you. Mind you i have a really short barrel on my 50 and have never shot one with a regular length barrel.
 
I missed a whole part of this thread, got unsubscribed to it somehow.

LOL's were had DG. :D

Yup, hang on, I'll get that crappy Serbu shipped right out to you lol, you go ahead and keep the LRA bipod, I am sure it wouldn't have brought it under 2 MOA anyways LOL.
 
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